NEF/H&R Handi Rifle questions

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  1. therhino

    therhino New Member

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    Hey all.
    I've been doing some research on NEF/H&R Handi Rifles after looking at some Rossi Combos and being dissatisfied with the lack of barrel versatility in the Rossi setups.

    I had a couple questions on the Handi Rifle:

    1) The rifle has a .357 Mag barrel available. I know that you can fire .38SPL in .357 Mag revolvers. Can the same be done in a Handi Rifle? (cheaper ammo)

    2) How complicated/time consuming is the changeout of barrels? Compared to breaking down an M16/AR15 to component parts.

    3) Some reviews have said that recoil in larger calibers is significant due to the light weight of the rifle. Does anyone own a 12ga or 20ga barrel for one of these? How many 12ga shots can you put downrange on this platform before you need an ice pack for your shoulder?

    Thanks in advance for any ifo you can provide. I'm looking to expand beyond 22LR plinking, and really like the versatility of changeable barrels. I won't be firing cans and cans of ammo, so having a different gun/rifle for each caliber isn't desirable. Plus, one stock with multiple barrels keeps the wife from being concerned that our house is turning into an armory ;).
     
  2. donthav1

    donthav1 Active Member

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    my brother's first shotgun was a NEF 20 gauge single shot, back then i thought it kicked like a mule but it's really nothing a recoil pad can't tame. i haven't fired a 12 so can't tell ya on that.

    the way i understand the barrel change outs is, you send the whole gun to new england, they replace the barrel & send the gun back to you. they will not sell a barrel directly to you for replacement.

    if you want to be able to change out your own barrel i suggest one of the thompson/center guns.
     

  3. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ Active Member

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    Rossi ? bad ???

    As far as I knew Rossi was running circles around H&R with the Matched pairs and Trifecta series of single shot's.

    Rossi USA
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    I'd seen Rossi single shot first hand the .17Hmr and 12ga matched pair (Neighbor's), I know they have allot to offer from all the ones my local gunshop was moving, (.308/12ga/.22lr) (.243/20ga/.17Hmr)

    H&R comes with Barrels as well, we dont useally see them advertised though.
    of cource you could send in the H&R for fitting at the Factory, 6 years ago fitting a barrel was $100, I couldent say for shure what it would cost today

    H&R 1871 - Barrel Accessory Program
    http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Combos/handislug.asp
    H&R Handi-Rifle™

    As far as I know the only company that sells a single shot that does not require factory fitting of barrels is Thompson Center.
     
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  4. therhino

    therhino New Member

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    Sending the lower in to NEF/H&R isn't a huge issue for me, so long as the barrels are freely swappable once it gets back to me. I was under the impression that was the case, yes?
    My main goal was to buy one rifle that I could swap from shotgun, to small caliber (.223 most likely), to larger caliber (30-30 or .308?).
     
  5. hiwall

    hiwall Well-Known Member

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    "Sending the lower in to NEF/H&R isn't a huge issue for me, so long as the barrels are freely swappable once it gets back to me. I was under the impression that was the case, yes?
    My main goal was to buy one rifle that I could swap from shotgun, to small caliber (.223 most likely), to larger caliber (30-30 or .308?). "

    Once you have fitted barrels they swap out in seconds. In a larger caliber I might urge you to stay with a rimmed case(like 30-30).
     
  6. dks7895

    dks7895 New Member

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    I had a handi rifle in 270. It was only good for a couple shots then lost accuracy because of heat. I sold it and bought a Marlin X7 in 308. My buddy has the handi now and it's hit or miss. His 223 is a good shooter, but the 270 and 243 barrels were junk. Some folks love them, but I'm not a fan.
     
  7. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I have a newer H&R Synthetic Handi Rifle in .357. You can get it with a 20 gauge rifled slug barrel and that is all. Same with the 44mag. It only comes with a 12 gauge rifled slug barrel. Some of the older rifles could be set up with different calibers of your choice including the 357 or 44. The 357 can be used with 38spl. I have a lot of 38spl cases and I am playing with reloads to see what I can do. It is also possible to load 357 cases with 180 or 200 grn pointed bullets in .358.
     
  8. goldenboy

    goldenboy New Member

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    I have a 22 hornet deadly little gun had no problems with over heating barrel. Just picked up a 223 put scope on today that has the bull barrel haven't shot that yet tho.
     
  9. therhino

    therhino New Member

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    Thanks for the info, everyone.
    I realized just before reading JTJ's post that the .357 and 44 barrels had asterisks next to them. Oops!
    I'll have to run the serials of the used models near here by the H&R customer service folks to figure out which ones have which frame types, and learn which ones can take which barrels when sent in to the factory.
     
  10. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I saw a used 3 barrel set at the gun show last weekend. It had 357, 22 Hornet and a 20 gauge. Price was outrageous. I just walked away when he told me how much he wanted.
     
  11. ron12301

    ron12301 New Member

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    Handi Rifle

    Rhino, go to graybeardoutdoors.com their website has a large section devoted to Handi Rifles. There is a lot of info on this site including barrel change info. I have two Handis myself and when I want to learn something this site is my go to.
     
  12. Win73

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    1) Any .357 revolver or rifle can also fire .38 Special ammo, but not the reverse. The .357 magnum cartridge was made by lengthening the .38 special case by 1/10 of an inch an stuffing more powder in it.

    2) The change out of barrels on a Handi Rifle is very quick and simple. Just remove the forearm screw, pull the forearm off, and open the action. The barrel just lifts out. Reinstallation is just as quick. Set the barrel in the action, close the action, put the forearm back on, and replace forearm screw. Doing it is even quicker than saying it.

    3) I have a .30-06 Handi Rifle. Sure it has recoil but so does any .30-06. I never even noticed the recoil when I shot any of the eight deer I have killed with it. (Eight shots fired, eight deer dead.) Even shooting on the bench to sight in, the recoil is bearable.

    On the H & R website I counted 28 different barrels available for the SB-2 Handi Rifle. Here is the link.

    H&R 1871 - Barrel Accessory Program
     
  13. Win73

    Win73 New Member

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    You only send the receiver and forearm. You do not send in any barrels you already have. I have a .357 magnum Handi Rifle. I had a .50 caliber muzzleloader barrel added to it. For that I didn't have to send in the forearm as they made a new one to accomodate the ramrod.

    After you get the new barrel made, you can change barrels very quickly and easily yourself. And for less money than for a T/C.
     
  14. Win73

    Win73 New Member

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    Yes, the barrels are easily and freely swappable.

    If you want to use both shotgun and rifle barrels on the same frame, be sure you start out with a rifle to get the SB-2 frame. Then you could also have a muzzleloader barrel added.
     
  15. Win73

    Win73 New Member

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    If you are concerned about possible ejection problems with rimless cases in a Handi Rifle, I have had absolutely none with my .30-06. Fired or unfired cases eject without any problem.
     
  16. Win73

    Win73 New Member

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    I have had no accuracy problems with my .30-06, my .50 caliber muzzleloader, or my .357 magnum Handi Rifles. I have fired eight shots at deer with my '06 at ranges from 25 yards to 125 yards and put down eight deer. All eight shots hit where I was aiming. I have killed two deer with the .50 caliber. So far have not killed anything with the .357 except targets.
     
  17. dks7895

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    My 270 was accurate. But the groups opened up significantly after 4-5 rounds. I don't miss my Handi rifle one bit. I'm glad you like yours.
     
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  18. Gatoragn

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    I have a .280 Handi Rifle with a heavy barrel, it is a good shooter. I have friends in LA that shoot Handi Rifles in .243, .270, .308, .444 and .45-70 and they all truly believe they have great little rifles.

    Any company can have a hiccup, but NEF makes good basic rifles.
     
  19. bgeddes

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    I own a NEF single shot 12ga. It does have significantly greater recoil than a pump or semi-auto but nothing I would consider too great. It has been a great gun. I paid $70 brand spanking new, but a long time ago.
     
  20. Win73

    Win73 New Member

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    That is exactly the way I look at mine, as a good basic rifle. Five years ago I paid, as I recall, right around $200 for my .30-06 with a 3-9x40 Tasco scope. I have since replaced the Tasco with a Nikon Buckmasters scope on the 06. The Tasco now resides on my .50 caliber muzzleloader.

    I have some scratches on the wood of the 06 but I don't worry about it. It just shows it is a working gun. If I had paid 3 or 4 times what I did for it, then I might worry about a few scratches. And I don't expect it to be as accurate as those much more expensive rifles, but I still hit whatever I shoot at. As I said, eight shots at deer, eight dead deer.