So, as some of you might know (if you happened to read my post about some recently acquired AR500 steel targets for my range) me and my friend just purchased several nice AR500 steel targets for our gun range (he was given some land a little ways south of where we live, so we're putting some money into it so that one day it'll be a full fledged outdoor range) anyways, I made a Facebook comment today for my friends just to express my jubilation that our latest shipment of targets arrived. And of course, like im sure all of you can attest, I have a friend who is the quintessential know-it-all...I love the guy, but he seriously is unable to admit when he's wrong =) He responded with a simple "you're not SERIOUSLY shooting at a steel target are you?" You can imagine how the conversation went, where im giving case after case about how, when handled properly (like with anything!) AR500 steel is safe and effective for firearm ranges and is not only recommended by the NRA, but is used in military and police training all over the world. Well, of course, he posted silly youtube videos and "hey, this guy said this on a forum" links...basically it's like arguing with a gun grabber (he's not a gun grabber, he supports the 2nd, he just obviously doesn't know anything about steel targets) Now, I'll admit, this is my first go, personally, with steel targets. I researched the hell out of it before I spent our hard earned money, but still, i'm no expert, nor am I pretending to be, I merely relayed all of my research to him, which, as of yet, has had any effect on his "opinion" of himself. He posted this video from youtube and used it as "proof" that shooting steel targets can get you killed. *sigh* (personally, I believe this video is fake, there are several reasons I believe it so, I have a history in video editing and could very EASILY recreate this scenario given enough time and desire) Most notably Where's the target? Even if he set it out to 100 yards, with that wide angle, you should be able to see the target! They NEVER ONCE show the damage to the head set that apparently flew off of his head. Not once, ever, no pictures, no video evidence, what so ever, that I can find - anywhere. If it were me, this would be the central focus of my video "holy ****, look what happened to my buddy!!!!" When he picks up the headset, there is no apparent damage, what so ever, on the entire thing. Now, go to your gun safe, or wherever you keep yours, and put your head set on. See how tight that is? imagine if a rogue piece of lead was traveling at a high velocity and impacted your head set hard enough to "throw it" off of your head...do these guys seriously expect us to believe that the head set would remain in tact and completely undamaged? There's a v shaped pattern of "dirt" from a camera that is positioned 100% perfectly and a increased whistling of something that, at least to me, sounds COMPLETELY recorded. (this is either an AMAZING coincidence that it all happened in this angled view, or it's staged, im going w/ the latter) [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdCT8j-HT-4[/ame] So im just looking for some additional "verbal ammunition" over the argument that will no doubt ensue tomorrow morning when he wakes up =) Anyone who has experience that can talk about the safety, etc, just your general input, would be MOST appreciated =) ... who knows, maybe im wrong and Ar500 steel targets = certain death? Thank you in advance!