Need Scope Help

Discussion in 'Optics & Mounts' started by CA357, Feb 16, 2009.

  1. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I picked up a Marlin 1895SS than I'm cleaning up and refinishing right now. I feel optimum range for my old eyes is around 100yds or so. I figure that big ol' bullet shoud be effective a lot farther than that, so I'm thinking of scoping it. First, I thought about a peepsight, but I think a scope will be better.

    It would have to be stout to handle the recoil and it has to be reasonable in price.

    What would you optics experts suggest?
     
  2. Dillinger

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    My first immediate thought was a Leupold 3x9 VX II/III. You just can't go wrong with a Leupold and their lifetime warranty is excellent.

    Having said that, we recently put a Bushnell Elite 3200 on a customer's pack in rifle that was also 3 x 9 and it was a nice scope. I liked it, and I think it's about $50 plus cheaper than the Leupold.

    Bushnell's low end stuff doesn't ring my bells, but their Elite line is well made and seems to be durable.

    I think the eye relief is probably a little better on the Leupold, I have exclusivley Leupold scopes on all my stuff so I definitely bias, but if price is a factor, check out the 3200 and see what you think....

    JD
     

  3. CA357

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    Thanks J.D. I'll look into those. I've had some old Redfields that were excellent and I've been going with Nikon on newer stuff, but I think I want to keep this scope dead nuts simple.
     
  4. rugermike

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    I'm partial to Burris 3x9x40's and if it is a 45/70?

    I shoot 405 gr FN Rem bullet (reloads) and 125yards is pretty good, beyond that you have to adjust elevation for a deer size kill a bit. Now the old trap door loads 100 is max and still has quite a loop in the trajectory arch.
     
  5. CA357

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    Yup, it's a 45/70 with a 22" barrel.
     
  6. Kill-Zone

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    Id go with the bushnell elite 3200 i got one on my Remington and their really nice....
     
  7. cpttango30

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    I will second both Kill and Dillinger. You can't go wrong with either one. I wouldn't go for a 3-9 though I would go for something a little on the smaller side. say a 2-7 or 1.5-4 this is a short range gun 200 to 300 yards max. Might also look at Nikon's and Burris. Burris are some stout scopes as well.
     
  8. Dillinger

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    CA357 is getting on in years my friend, he might need a little help for some "longer" shots....:eek:

    JD
     
  9. CA357

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    J.D. Thanks, I think. :D

    I'm looking at 3-9x40's right now. The Burris Elite looks pretty darn good. What do you think of a 3-9x40 Nikon ProStaff in comparison?

    I can get either one for cost at the shop, assuming they're in stock.
     
  10. cpttango30

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    Well if he would get on the CA hippie bandwagon and smoke the dope his eyesight might not be as bad. Just kidding.

    I just can't say go with a 3-9x40 I hate them scopes. Maybe look for a 4-12x40 or 42mm.
     
  11. CA357

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    Why 4-12 Capt?
     
  12. big shrek

    big shrek Well-Known Member

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    If it's a 45-70, a scope will only getcha Very Specific ranges, dang thang has a trajectory like a Mortar at 500-1000yds.

    Get a tang peep or Vernier(?sp) scale meant for a 45-70. You'll probably be happier.
     
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  13. big shrek

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    because 3x9 will only letcha see so far...yes, you can see a blob of a man-shaped target at 1000yds with a 3x9...but unless you have a spotter...that's all you'll see.

    The whole reason military units send out a two man team is because the Spotter has a Kick@$$ high-power spotting scope so he can tell the schmoe with the 3x9 exactly where to place his reticle & send his shot on the blob he sees way out there.

    So if you REALLY want to see what & where you are shooting at...especially at long (500+yds) distances without a spotter, get the highest power scope you can getcher hands on. If you are planning 500+ yard shots...minimum 16x50 power is where I'd start.
     
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  14. CA357

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    Realistically, I figure most shots will be between 100-300yds. It's a 45/70, if I'm looking at anything beyond that, I'll break out the .308 as needed.

    I seriously thought about a Williams peepsight, but in this case, I think I want a scope.

    I had a Williams peepsight on a Marlin 1894 .357 and it was the goods. But I want the 45/70 set up for more serious business than plinking with pistol rounds.
     
  15. Dillinger

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    CA357 - Go with the 3 x 9. At those ranges, it will treat you right and it won't break the bank....

    JD
     
  16. freefall

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    Get a leupold 2-7 or 1 3/4 to 6. Something with the objective lens larger than the eyepiece. I had a 1 1/2 to 5 for a while but it didn't gather sufficient light. I've considered going with some type of red dot sight, since the difficulty generally seems to be seeing the crosshairs, not the animal. That said, I just ordered Williams peep sights with fiber optic front sights for my Marlin.
     
  17. CA357

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    Hmmm. I'm going to stop by the shop tomorrow and see what's on the shelves scope-wise.
     
  18. Gene L

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    My bud has a guide gun, he gota 2.5 Pentax shotgun scope from me and put it on. It's good to go, and lightweight. It's got a circle in the reticle, but he likes it in for reduced light. His eyes aren't great at distance. He's getting about 1300 fps or slightly more with lead bullets and the rifle is surprisingly accurate, about 1.5".

    I like lightweight scopes for heavy recoiling rifles. Problem is you can't find them as easily as you can find the ubiquitous 3 x 9.
     
  19. CA357

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    Ubiquitous is one of my favorite words. Well said. :D
     
  20. cpttango30

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    Why because they are like the 10/22. They work but there are much better options out there. I personaly like high power on my optics. the lowest power I have on any of mine is a 15x on my Rem 513t. If I could afford it I would have a 12-42x56mm NF on my 308 or a 10-60-56mm March. Then I would move the 6-24 over to the 223 that is topped with a 6-18. The 6-18 would go over to the 513 and the 15x would drop down to my mossy 46 I still need to get a better scope for it too. come to think about it.

    The 3-9 is so popular because it does both ok not great but ok and every line of scopes out there has a stinking 3-9x in it. The market is flooded with them they are cheap the cheapest variable out there I personaly believe that the 4-12 give you a much better range from 4x on the low end to 12x on the high end. If you are using decent glass and not BSA or BARASKA. then you will see a big difference in what you can and can't see.