Need red dot pistol scope w/picatinny rail mount

Discussion in 'Optics & Mounts' started by Robc10x, Jul 12, 2011.

  1. Robc10x

    Robc10x New Member

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    I recently picked up a ruger 22/45 pistol that comes w/picatinny rails on the top & bottom. I was looking for a red dot under $100 for it but all I find have weaver mounts. I dont mind getting a cheapie just want one that is compact and fits. Didnt find any on midway, cheaperthandirt etc. Any ideas!?
     

  2. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    Yes--there are differences between Picatinny and Weaver, but all the
    sights with "Weaver mounts" will fit just fine on your Ruger. I've got
    a Burris Fastfire on mine. You get the shorty with the threaded barrel?
    Get rid of that %$#&^ magazine safety yet? Regular 1911 grips work
    great, but you have to remove a little material to clear the slide stop.

    A GOOD red dot under $100 is a rare bird. Bump it up to $200 and there
    are some choices.
     
  3. Robc10x

    Robc10x New Member

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    Im leaning towards a reflex - I kinda lump them in with the red dots I guess. I did get the threaded shorty and if its anywhere close to the buckmark camper (always in the range bag) then my ammo bin will take a serious hit. Apparently I need to do some more forum surfing as im not aware of those mods. Thanks!

    I thought the weaver mounts were much more narrower than pic rails & so the integrated weaver style on most compact optics wouldnt work? Ill try it tomorrow on a weaver walmart special from the junk drawer.
     
  4. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    From the Brownell's website:

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    What are the differences between the “Picatinny” and the “Weaver” systems? The profile of the two systems is virtually identical. Depending on the quality of the machining done by the manufacturer, the two systems should be indistinguishable from the profile. The key difference lies in the placement of the recoil grooves and with width of the grooves. MIL-STD-1913 (Picatinny) grooves are .206” wide and have a center-to-center width of .394”. The placement of these grooves has to be consistent in order for it to be a true “Picatinny” MIL-STD system. Weaver systems have a .180” width of recoil groove and are not necessarily consistent in a center-to-center measurement from one groove to the next. In many instances, a Weaver system has a specific application that it is machined for, so interchangeability is not necessarily an issue. A MIL-STD-1913 system must adhere to the specifications listed above in order for it to be considered MIL-STD, since the military desires uniformity in the recoil grooves to allow for different systems to be mounted on the weapon with no concern for compatibility.

    Now, what does this mean to you? Boiled down, it means that accessories designed for a Weaver system will, in most cases, fit on a “Picatinny” system. The reverse, however, is probably not the case. Due to the larger recoil groove, “Picatinny” accessories will not fit a Weaver system. There are, of course, exceptions to every rule, but for a good rule-of-thumb, “Picatinny” won’t fit Weaver, but Weaver will fit “Picatinny”.
     
  5. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    Cute little gun isn't it? The accessories on mine are getting little spendy. The
    Burris Fastfire wasn't bad, and the Volquartzsen trigger only set me back
    a few bucks. The Liberty Kodiak TL suppressor that's waiting on the
    paperwork to come back from ATF is going to end up costing about
    twice what I paid for the pistol.:)
     
  6. Robc10x

    Robc10x New Member

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    Ok thanks for the excellent info. Picked up a chinese browning reflex at the local toy store. fits just fine! Shoots fine too.
     

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  8. Robc10x

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    Update: thanks to you all for mentioning the mag safety removal it is now done. I did it myself using the Vol Mk II trigger kit & bushing. Followed some videos I found on the web and voila it is a real pleasure to shoot. It went from "almost on consignment" to "keeper". Mags fly out of the frame, trigger is near perfect, and i dumped the slide lock ball detent to boot. If you have even a modicum of mechanical ability then you really need to do this mod! Thanks again.
     
  9. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    You need one more thing.

    Go here: http://www.tech-custom.com

    and get some basepads for your magazines. e-mail Dominic and he
    will fix you right up. Available in MANY colors--I have black, my wife's
    are purple. You will not believe what a difference they make on the 22/45!
     
  10. Overkill0084

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    On my MK3 I went cheapo. I bought a BSA Reflex at Midway that was on clearance for $45. It's been going fine for 2 years, .22s aren't that hard on optics. If you want something more substantial, check out the C-More Polymer models. For around $200 they are a lot of optic for the money. I stuck one one a S&W 627, around 8 months and counting. I did have a Burris FastFire 2 on the S&W for a while. Great optic, but I found it hard to pick up quickly under recoil. Though on a .22, it will probably work fine. It works better for me on my CX4 carbine.
     
  11. Robc10x

    Robc10x New Member

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    Thanks! I'll contact him shortly.