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Discussion in 'Hunting Forum' started by Joker88, Dec 6, 2011.

  1. Joker88

    Joker88 New Member

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    I own a small fish pond and around a dozen herons have nested in the forest near it. and every day they land on the banks of the pond (usually on the far side) and eat my fish. I tried scaring them away but as soon as I go in the house they come back. so what i'm asking is what kind of weapon(rifle) do I purchase that can kill them. distance is about 150 meters (500 feet).
     
  2. Marlinman

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    22 mag with winchester super x 40 grain jhp work great. So do the 45 grain dynapoints. 223, 204 ruger, 17 hmr. All would work. Id go with the 22 mag(wmr) myself. Do us all a favor and swing by the intro section and tell us about yourself. Welcome aboard and hope you enjoy the ride.
     
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  3. hiwall

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    You do know that it would be illegal to kill them.
     
  4. orangello

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    Sounds like those "artillery shell" fireworks could be a challenging deterrent at that range. :D

    As was mentioned though, you might want to check with the fish & game people for your state, as some animals are protected. Maybe there is an exception for protecting your aquaculture crop if you ask. If they won't let you shoot them, maybe some kind of motion-activated animatronic coyote would be useful?
     
  5. vincent

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    Why don't you just get a dog???...or bigger fish :D
     
  6. Marlinman

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    Depends on the state but in MO it isnt if you let dnr know whats going on. If they want to relocate tgem they will. But herons-great blues in particular-usually return to where they were hatched as a general rule. Its what iv always heard. Same with killing cougars over your calves-they are destroying ypur property so you have the right to destroy them once dnr knows and says you can
     
  7. Vincine

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    When we had the fish pond we had a hawk/osprey/eagle that would come by and take a salmon. We didn’t mind that. The Herons however would stab a fish, take a one bite, then stab another, take a one bite, stab another, take a bite, etc. We’d find dozens of dead salmon with one hole in them floating on the pond.

    After a number of unsuccessful attempts to discourage them we finally found this to work.

    We set up a TV facing out the side door of a VW camper parked next to the pond on the bank. We left the engine running and the TV on all night. The Herons saw the changing light & ‘shadows’ cast by the TV and stayed away.

    A dog that likes to swim (Labrador?) is also a good idea.
     
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  8. c3shooter

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    The TV only worked because you had "The View" on. Not even herons can stand that. :p
     
  9. CourtJester

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    They'll be okay. They wont eat that much.
     
  10. Joker88

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    Tnx for all suggestion. since I didn't do the intro (didn't know how), I should have mentioned I am not from USA. I am from a little country in the Balkan called Bosnia. no quality hunting and weapons forums here so I tried this one.
    - So that winchester shells mr. Marlinman i cannot find here(think more russian) and I am not a very good shooter so something precise.
    - we don't have protected species in my country. Funny but true. :D
    One more thing i am not rich(actually I make ends meet) so think cheep. :D
    - have 2 dogs and they don't wanna go in the water, and a labrador is rare here(and expensive)
    - TV is good idea but i don't have camper and house is about 100 meters(330 feet) and the pests at during the day to and as you said they just kill and go to the next fish.

    I can use a AK 47 or a PAP 7,62 m59/66 but as I said I am not a good shooter and there are houses and people around me so I could kill someone. Even if I shot it the bullet would probably passed through the heron and with my luck end up killing someone.
     
  11. Vincine

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    Cats? Can you get a Crocodile? ;)
     
  12. winds-of-change

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    Other than eating fish why do you want to kill them?

    If it is a small pond but a bird net over the top.

    Herons are not games animals and should not be killed.
     
  14. hiwall

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    You could try something that spins and is real shiny.
     
  15. JTJ

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    A former neighbor had a similar problem and ended up putting a net over the pond. His was a small pond. The fish hatcheries use netting over the rearing pens also. Killing them will work only for a little while as more will find the pond. If you still want to kill them safely, you will probably need to build a blind and use a shotgun or possibly a 22 lr. Another option is to use snares. I dont know if they are edible, probably taste fishy.
     
  16. Jeepergeo

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    You don't need to kill them.

    First, it would be illegal in most states without a predatory pest type permit and I'm not sure they give those out for Herons. Second, the birds will scare off. A scare crow, or propane cannon, or noise rounds should all work.
     
  17. Marlinman

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    The op is in bosnia so it is legal to kill them. And yes they will scare off but will come back.
     
  18. Marlinman

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    It is not mr. It makes me feel really old
     
  19. orangello

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    M59/66 Grenade launching system information *pics and video*

    I doubt you kill anybody with a dummy grenade, but it might be a fun wy to scare the heck out of those birds. The M59/66's available here come with an attached grenade launcher & a gas valve to let you make use of it.

    Here is an adapter to launch golf balls. That might be more socially acceptable. http://www.bloomautomatic.com/index.htm $45 You might find something better locally.
     
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  20. Joker88

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    I had a bird net and the ****ers go under the net and kill. and if I put it lover i can't feed the fish because I do it manually from a small boat.
    I have used snares and i caught 2 and then they started landing in the pond(it's not very deep 1 m(3 feet; 30 cm on the sides(1 feet)).
    I have 2 scarecrows and I made spinners from bottles but they adjust after 2-3 days.
    I also have shotgun with 16 gauge(don't know if I said it right and I use those shells because you can buy them anywhere) but it's like throwing hamburgers at them they kinda like it. They scare of easily but they come back.
    Since I attend ETF( college equivalent to MIT but only for electrical engineering) I made an electric cable around the pond, but as I said they started landing in the water. and I can't put that in the water.
    -sorry Marlinman for calling you MR. dude :)
    -orangelo I was talking about rifle that is made in my country full name PAP 7,62 m59/66("Polu Automatska Puska" translation semi automatic rifle, and 7,62 because the bullet is 7.62x39mm) and i can't get that golf balls grenade launcher in my country.
    Ponds dimensions are 100x100 m (330 x 330 feet)
    I have tried some more stuff(not the crocodile :D), and one more interesting piece of info. Every sunday I have a group of professional hunters come in my forest to hunt(they released pheasant,deers,wild pigs,quail,... and for using my forest I can hunt them to). BUT every sunday the birds disappear from the forest. :) It's unbelievable. And they can't give their rifles to me, and they get those rifles only after they get licenses from the hunting association.
    I caught deer with a modified beer trap and I can't catch few birds. I'm frustrated. I feel like I'm in a "soviet russia" joke.
    - In Former Yugoslavian Republic Bosnia birds hunt you. :D
    I know it sounds unbelievable but it's true. that's why I wanted to find some more advices for hunting those vermins.