Need help to ensure I'm on the right track

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by him_tattoos, Oct 6, 2011.

  1. him_tattoos

    him_tattoos New Member

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    Hey guys, I've been read through tons of threads and sites, and think I've got it all figured out, but wanna double check before I commit to anything.

    I'm looking at this (http://www.zombie-defense.com/lower-receiver-information.html) lower with stock and parts kits.

    And then this (http://www.surplusammo.com/dpms-panther-a3-lite-16-complete-upper-receiver-5-56-nato/) upper.

    My questions are:

    1. Is this going to complete the rifle or will I still need a buffer tube, spring, and barrel nuts?

    2. Does this seem like a decent setup? I'm not looking for anything special just something fun to shoot, and take out zombies if the day ever comes.

    3. I just noticed www.slickguns.com, I noticed their a vendor here and was wondering if any can vouch for them?

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. him_tattoos

    him_tattoos New Member

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    Thought of another question, a lot of what I'm reading says to upgrade the trigger asap, is it really worth it if it's just going to be a fun gun anyways?
     

  3. orangello

    orangello New Member

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  4. Kinetics

    Kinetics New Member

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    Well here are my thoughts, im wondering something, if you are going to spend that much on your lower, why buy a DPMS upper? Anyways you will have a functioning gun if you buy those parts, however you will need a rear sight, and some mags :D
     
  5. mjkeat

    mjkeat New Member

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    Because the D-Bag at the local gun store told him it was the best money can buy and ignore all those know nothings saying it's not. Then he went to a gun show and the guy behind the table selling pieced together rifles made mostly of DPMS parts confirmed what the guy behind the counter at the gun store said.

    Don't cheap out on the upper because you want some cool roll mark on your lower. The upper is the heart and soul of the AR.

    Those lowers would make for a fun build though.
     
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  6. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    That lower is way more than I'd expect to pay. What they charge for a stripped lower is about what I paid for a complete lower (single stage) from Stag.
     
  7. him_tattoos

    him_tattoos New Member

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    The lower is kind of a running gag, so I'm willing to pay the price for it. Uppers are still quite confusing to me, not so much in the functioning sense, as the quality. I hear mixed opinions on every upper I've found so far, so a bit further direction on that would be appreciated.

    Also, no one touched on slickguns.com. I've read tons of builds on here, but that in way helps me decide what parts I want.
     
  8. mjkeat

    mjkeat New Member

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    Right now the best bet for a lower priced upper would be Ammunition, Magazines, Rifle Parts, Bulk Ammo and Rifle Accessories – Palmetto State Armory. If you want value look into a BCM. Stock is low right now but they are well worth the weight.

    I'm afraid you'd be disappointed in the upper you listed if you were to use it w/ any consistency.

    EDIT: Just came across this deal on a really nice upper - http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.a...6"+Midlength+LWT+with+MOE+handguard&groupid=6
     
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  9. USEBOTHHANDS

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    ur gonna need a stock and/or a stock kit of some sort. other than that, plenty of ammo.

    for a few dollars more, i would go here and get mine...............I DID!
    http://rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=266

    AND WHAT'S KEWL, U CAN ADD, OR TAKE AWAY ITEMS AND MAKE IT LIKE YOU WANT IT!
     
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  10. fsted2a

    fsted2a Active Member

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    Just to add my .02, buy the mall ninja kool lower you want, then go shopping for all the rest somewhere else. Plenty of quality lower cost parts on the internet. Since all the rest is Bushmaster, they are pretty generic, and many manufacturers will make something extremely close for less money. I personally prefer Bushmaster buttstocks because of the timing lip on the buffer tube.
     
  11. mjkeat

    mjkeat New Member

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    I'm lost, what do you mean by this?
     
  12. fsted2a

    fsted2a Active Member

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    If you will follow the "zombie" lower link, you will notice that all the lower receiver parts (except for the stripped reciever itself-not sure about that) available at that site happen to be bushmaster.
     
  13. him_tattoos

    him_tattoos New Member

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    From what I've read, isn't bushmaster decent? I'm a bit confused on the above last few comments. If the lower is bushmaster for the most part, thinking I might as well get a bushmaster upper too, to complete the outfit.
     
  14. mjkeat

    mjkeat New Member

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    NO.

    For the most part a lower is a lower is a lower but an upper is different beast. As long as the lower is in spec you'll be GTG. The upper is a totally different story. The upper includes the bolt carrier group, and barrel which are the heart and soul of an AR.

    Get yourself a good upper from some of the places already listed.
     
  15. fsted2a

    fsted2a Active Member

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    I use bushmaster lower kits, and no problems with them yet. But if you are going to get bushmaster parts, unless there is about 30% or more lower price, I would go to the bushmaster site to get them just in case I had a warranty issue.
     
  16. mjkeat

    mjkeat New Member

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    What does a BM lower kit cost? So far the best deal I've found was a PSA LPK for under $50. The highest quality LPK I've found was a DD for just under $70.
     
  17. fsted2a

    fsted2a Active Member

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    BM usually runs $60-$70 at their website. Found em on gunbroker cheaper. My original point was not to buy the LPK from the zombie site cause it was the same price as BM site, and if there happened to be a factory defect, it might be some headache returning it to a third party for exchange.
    The assertion that a lower is a lower I have to disagree with as I have gotten some crap in the past, so I now tend to be a little picky on some parts. Point in mind: bought an essential arms lower once, and ended up having to dremel the mag well a little to get it to take milspec magazines. At work we had some FN recievers for our M16's that had to be turned in for the same reason.
    I even had one that the pin holes for the trigger weren't lined up exactly, which caused the disconnector to release the hammer sometimes and either cause a doubletap or stop the carrier before it returned completely. There are some companies making crap for AR parts and stating they are milspec.
     
  18. Car54

    Car54 New Member

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    To answer your question about slickguns.com: I have done a lot of business with the companies on slickguns.com. That's my go to website when I want to find out what deals are around for whatever I'm looking for at the time, be it guns, ammo, uppers, lowers, parts, etc.

    If the advertised deal is no longer in effect, the company website will show that.

    There are some companies not associated with slickguns so you still need to check other sites.

    And my two cents, listen to others about the upper. You don't need to spend a fortune to get the best if you don't want to, but don't scrimp to get the- not so best.
     
  19. mjkeat

    mjkeat New Member

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    And that is why I started my statement w/ "for the most part." There are always exceptions to the rule. I have a lower that alows the trigger pins to walk. I have used the LPK in another lower w/o any problems thus the reason I think it's the lower.

    It's always smart to use quality parts over parts that are perceived to be of quality.
     
  20. Quentin

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    And that's what it's all about when doing a build. Normally there are at least three grades of parts out there: not acceptable, acceptable and higher quality. It takes time to sort it all out and the rules change all the time - but if you search and dig up the facts then you know what you're buying. Nothing wrong with acceptable but in some areas you do want the quality part.

    As has been said many times here, you tend to forget paying a little more for quality but your rifle never lets you forget crap parts.

    As far as lowers I go along with the generalization that a lower is a lower. Sometimes you get a bad one but usually they work fine. The main reason to match the same brand upper and lower is cosmetic, the finishes may match better and they may fit tigher. And of course you can choose the rollmark you really like - nothing wrong with that.