Need help, Kimber Pro Carry II leaves a bit to be desired

Discussion in 'Range Report' started by jamesb, Jul 8, 2010.

  1. jamesb

    jamesb New Member

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    So range update:

    First...I have horrible aim...my groupings are good but they pull down and right. I don't feel i'm doing anything wrong with my grip. I'm consistant in shooting this way weather its the 1911 or the HK. Granted I've only ever been to the range 3 times now in my entire life so I know I have to learn.

    Kimber Pro Carry II update:

    Nice, but not reliable yet. My groupings at 15 feet were better than with my HK. I put 200 rounds of WWB within an hour. It was very hot in the range. I don't sweat much and I was dripping. No A/C. I had at least 5 or 6 Failure To Feeds where the round got hung up not allowing the slide to cycle fully closed. I also had about 6 times where the slide locked back even with rounds still in the magazine.

    200 rounds later I like the gun, but I hope as I keep putting rounds through it it gets more reliable. Being new, I don't know what is causing the FTFs or slide catch to lock back with rounds left in the magazines.

    Could it be magazines themselves causing this? I have a Kimber 7 rd and 8 rd magazine. I only loaded them both to 7 rds. The feeding ramp as well as the rest of the gun was very dirty by time I hit close to 100 rounds.

    Any help for a newb would be helpful.
     
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  2. utf59

    utf59 New Member

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    Someone who's more of a 1911 expert will be along soon to help out. But while we're waiting, how about a little more info?

    Did either/both of these problems occur with just one magazine or both?

    On the FTFs, did the round stop with its nose on the feed ramp? Or did it hang up going into the chamber? Or did it make it most of the way into the chamber but the slide just didn't completely return forward into battery?

    One thing you can look at while you're at home that might help with the slide-lock problem is to examine your grip. It's not unusual for a shooter's thumb to nudge the slide release and cause the slide to lock back.

    That's all I have. As I said, the experts will be along directly.
     

  3. jamesb

    jamesb New Member

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    See above. Thanks.

    I am also going to order a couple of these to see if anything changes.

    1911 Magazine | 7 Round .45 ACP | Full-Size | Black-Wilson Combat
     
  4. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    Mine did the same thing. A call to kimber will tell you to keep firing the gun and see what happens after the initial break in period. The manual even states to use fmj ammo for 500-600rds to break in the pistol and smooth it out, after that you shouldn't have any problems. Did you read the manual?

    I also use the wilson mags and they have been great. I have about 700rds downrange with mine and haven't had any ftf's since round 250 or so. Keep shooting,get the new mags, and you will be well pleased.
     
  5. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Make sure that you do not have any appendages (thumbs) near the slide release (or what some call the slide stop). I have seen people who are new to the 1911 do that because their other firearm did not have the slide release protude as much and can get away with the thumb there.
    On shooting low right, that could be of too much finger on the trigger. Or pulling the gun to the right as the finger works the trigger.
    Somebody has a picture of a circle that helps to explain groupings. Maybe they could post it.
     
  6. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    My pro carry has been a champ and so far will eat everything I feed it. Keep shooting to break it in and if that doesn't work, try a different magazine and see what happens
     
  7. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    NEED DATA!

    Is this your first 1911?

    Is this your first 4.25" 1911?

    Is the gun new? I assume yes.

    Why didn't you buy a Colt? Never mind.

    If you MUST buy Wilson Mags, only buy one and then buy one Tripp Research Gen II Cobra mag and compare the two. You will be buying Tripp's from then on!

    Tripp Research Inc. 1911 Magazines

    Read this before you buy any 1911 mag:

    MAG QUESTIONS:

    My first pistol a 1911 Kimber
     
  8. jamesb

    jamesb New Member

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    I have those photos for both right and left handed shooters. Actually have them saved on my phone as a PDF so I can pull them up if needed.

    Will do. I still have 600 rds of the WWB so I guess I will go through that and see what happens.

    Thanks, going to order the Wilson combat mag I posted in a few. Probably one for now just to see how they work, then if they are good another one or two.
     
  9. jamesb

    jamesb New Member

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    Thank you. I have heard that the Tripp mags are good. I'll pick one of them up first, then if I don't like it I will try the Wilson mag. :D

    EDIT: Is this the one I should go for: It is model 7R-45-WG, "Magazine 1911, .45 ACP caliber, seven round, welded steel floor plate, government grip length, hybrid follower, 14C .042 spring.
    Flush fit for full size government length grip. " I want the government size correct, considering mine is a full size frame?

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  10. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I should add, I use Tripp Reasearch mags. I carry them daily and trust them with my life.
     
  11. jamesb

    jamesb New Member

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    Just ordered 2 of the Tripp 7rd mags I posted above. I was going to go to the range tomorrow, but i'll probably wait till they arrive and then go.
     
  12. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    Mine is just like yours,exactly.

    I also lubed my slide,loaded the mags, and just cycled it hard over and over to help smooth it out at home without putting rounds downrange. I don't know if that did it, but after that it had fed smooth.

    I fully trust it to feed and cycle every time now. Good luck with yours. :)
     
  13. Gatekeeper

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    I've ran around 5000 rounds through the five 8rd Tripps I own in the last couple months. They've been dropped repeatedly, kicked, stepped on, wet, dirty and muddy.
    Not one single malfunction!:cool:
    Tripps are fantastic! Cane speaks the truth![​IMG]
     
  14. NGIB

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    Keep it really clean and make sure it's well lubed. I have never had a new 1911 that ran well "dry". I use Mobil 1 synthetic oil on all of my guns and have had no problems at all. Shooting a lot of rounds in a short time will heat up the gun significantly. If the tolerances are kind of tight cold they will be tighter when it heats up and problems may set in...
     
  15. jamesb

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    Thanks guys. I have RemOil that I use. I stripped it and cleaned/lubed it before shooting it for the first time, but it got dirty and hot and I kept going.

    I am cleaning it all tonight and i'll make sure to lube it enough and I will cycle it a few hundred times as well.

    I really hope as I break it in it gets better. I love this gun and hope to make it my carry gun sooner or later, but not until it shoots flawlessly.
     
  16. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    I'm not a fan of remoil at all. I find it to be way to light. While you don't want grease you do want oil that has a little viscosity so stays on the material. Also, as the oil heats up it becomes more fluid. NGIB mentioned Mobil 1, I haven't used it personally but I could see it being a good chioce. I've had good luck with outters and hoppes gun oil.

    On my carry weapon I've noticed that when I tried remoil it needed to be oiled more frequently then any of the other oils.
     
  17. jamesb

    jamesb New Member

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    I have Mobil 1 4T Synthetic 10W-40 (for my streetbike) that I am sure is just fine as well as standard Mobil 1 Sythentic for cars. I can try that tonight.


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  18. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    The additive package may be slightly different but you Kimber won't know the difference.
     
  19. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    That oil will be just fine. I find it stays in place and is very heat resistant as well. I've been shooting Mobil 1 lubed 1911s for years with absolutely no problems. I probably put over 6000 rounds thru my old Kimber and I never saw a sign of wear at all. Make sure when you clean it you use a q-tip to clean the rails in the slide and the frame really well. Carbon tends to build up and will make the slide "sticky"...
     
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  20. jamesb

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    Thanks!

    Just to clarify, I can use the Mobil 1 everywhere to lube including the barrel, but should I still use the other oil to clean the pistol?