Need help identifying rifle

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by akm47nagiont, Jun 15, 2014.

  1. akm47nagiont

    akm47nagiont New Member

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    This is my grandfather's gun I maintain his guns because he's 85 and doesn't shoot or hunt anymore and I was just curious what make and model that is one problem it has no identifying marks other than the serial number. It's a 3006 it is a modified military rifle for hunting ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1402890494.396091.jpg ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1402890507.129444.jpg ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1402890519.481419.jpg ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1402890532.593771.jpg ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1402890546.873124.jpg
    This is on the Bolt ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1402890622.239673.jpg ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1402890640.033286.jpg ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1402890652.001884.jpg ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1402890669.146877.jpg ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1402890683.364473.jpg
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  2. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    just looking at he pictures, i would say a sporterized Mauser or a possibly even a build on a Mauser action done many years ago.

    nice looking rifle though.
     

  3. akm47nagiont

    akm47nagiont New Member

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    ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1402890834.062919.jpg ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1402890846.680688.jpg ImageUploadedByFirearms Talk1402890858.463750.jpg
    Thank you for any help



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  4. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Arisaka?



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  5. akm47nagiont

    akm47nagiont New Member

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    We originally thought it was an old 1903 Springfield however side-by-side comparison sed not. it also does not have a Mauser bolt. The caliber is definitely 3006


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  6. akm47nagiont

    akm47nagiont New Member

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    The bolts release levers in the same spot however there is no safety on the right side very well could be a variant of the Arisaka


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  7. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    purely a guess looking at the bolt release on the LH side of the reciever. reason i said sporterized is the safety isn't on the bolt like the older Mausers but is on the reciever, for scope clearance when the bolt is cycled.
     
  8. Hawg

    Hawg New Member

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    Its a 1917 Enfield with the rear sight ears milled off.
     
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  9. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Nailed it.



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  10. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Before being sporterized, looked like this:

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    And if that scope mount was not covering the area right above the chamber, you could likely read the markings.
     
  11. 303tom

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    That is a 1917 that someone has bubbaed the hell out of !..................
     
  12. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    A lot of them were sporterized. They were cheap and plentiful. I had one in 308 Norma Magnum with a Fajen stock when I was in Alaska. That was before the 300 Winchester Mag was copied from it.
     
  13. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    did a little research and it appears to be a 1917 Enfield that has been sporterized sometime in the past.

    they had an over abundance of parts at the Remington plant that made them and Remington made a sprter version of the 1917 that became the Model 30. it was available in several calibers and versions while it was offered.
     
  14. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    A little history- The British were developing a new rifle, and a new cartridge to replace the SMLE in .303. But along came WW 1, and they did not have time to do what they wanted- so they contracted with US companies to make the rifle for them, but still in .303. This was the P14, or Pattern 14 rifle.

    Then the US, which used the 1903 rifle, got into the war. And they did not have enough 1903s. But the factories that were making P14s could change caliber pretty quickly. This became the US rifle, Caliber 30, Model of 1917. They were made by Winchester, Remington, and a Remington subsidiary- Eddystone.

    By the end of WW1, about 75% of the rifles used by the Americans in Europe were 1917s. Sgt Alvin York used one in the fight that resulted in his being awarded the Medal of Honor. After the war, a TON of these were sold as suplus, and many were "sporterized"- modified to the lines of a civilian sporting rifle. And yes, a civilian version was made.

    The 1917 still soldiers on today in an unlikely place- Greenland. The Danish Sirius Sledge Patrol- long range scouts in the most remote areas of Greenland- still carry the 30-06 US Rifle, Model of 1917.
     
  15. 303tom

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    Here`s how you tell what it is.........Does it cock when you open the bolt or when you close it ?..........
    If it cocks when you close it, it is a Bubbaed 1917 aka Caliber 30, Model of 1917.
    If it cocks on opening it is a Remington Model 30...........
    But by the stock it`s a Bubbaed 1917..........
     
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  16. Highpower

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    Since no one has mentioned it, before it was sporterized it looked like this:

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    :D :D :D

    I'm going to take a wild guess and say the OP's gun is an Eddystone. :p
     
  17. Salvo

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    I've had several of these, they were all good shooters. The action is very strong, was popular for conversion to magnum calibers back when magnums were new.

    I wouldn't say it was 'Bubba'd up", though it could be refinished if the appearance bothers you. If it were mine, I'd leave it as it is and use it proudly.

    Nice gun.
     
  18. Vasa1628

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    looks like 1917 Enfield (dog leg bolt handle) ,the stock also looks like it. VASA 1628


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