need help identifiying a rifle

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by randy420, May 10, 2013.

  1. randy420

    randy420 New Member

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    I think its an old ww1 arisaka type 30 rifle but I'm not 100% sure.

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  2. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    What he means is:

    Pics of markings, the top if the receiver, and the rear of the bolt may be more useful in identifying the rifle.
     
  3. sputnik1988

    sputnik1988 Active Member

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    Kinda looks like an Arisaka to me, but I could be wrong, it's happened before:p
     
  4. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    It is a Carcano..................Its the Japanese Carcano Type I Rifle.
     
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  5. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    Its either a Type 30 or a Type I (Italian made). I need pics of the top of the receiver, and the safety would help.... Does it still have its "Mum"??
     
  6. HockaLouis

    HockaLouis New Member

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    Not really, they just didn't show the right angles of the parts photographed and are kinda fuzzy.
     
  7. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    We have a winner! The safety is Carcano, the hole in the stock for
    the magazine box is way too wide for the regular Carcano single stack
    bottom metal.

    Pretty much the only thing it can be is a Type I. Or what's left of one.:(
     
  8. randy420

    randy420 New Member

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    Do you think it might of been demilitarized?
     
  9. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    As in "rendered inert and incapable of firing"? Probably not. Check the bore
    to see if it has a hole through it, and check the barrel for holes drilled in it
    to be sure.

    It actually looks fairly complete. It's missing the magazine box, the
    bottom metal (trigger guard, magazine follower/spring, the hinged door
    that covers the magazine etc.) It's also missing at least the trigger,
    and maybe some other parts that make it go bang.

    It's a Type I, which is a bit rarer than your run of the mill type 99. Might
    be worth getting it back up and running in it's original configuration.
    Problem is that it's a Type I------I have no idea what might fit it for
    parts or where to find them. I'm sure someone will be along shortly
    with superior knowledge on the subject, amazing what some of the
    people on these forums know!:)
     
  10. lone_wolf_6417

    lone_wolf_6417 New Member

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    I'm hoping someone can chime in and help me with my carcano type rifle. It's missing the rear sight and the bolt. The only markings I found were on the base of the barrel. The markings read "Roma 917". I would really like to get this rifle up and running. Any help is appreciated.
     
  11. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    pictures.jpg

    Show us whatcha got.
     
  12. lone_wolf_6417

    lone_wolf_6417 New Member

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    Roma 917 is the only markings I've found that could indicate the model of the rifle.
     
  13. lone_wolf_6417

    lone_wolf_6417 New Member

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  14. SteveK

    SteveK New Member

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    Lone Wolf go to www.e-sarcoinc.com and you will find the Carcano parts. I did see some bolt parts listed. If that does not work just go to Google and type in where to find Carcano parts and you will get a list of places to visit.
    Stevek
     
  15. lone_wolf_6417

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    Will do. Thanks for the info!
     
  16. lone_wolf_6417

    lone_wolf_6417 New Member

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    If I was to buy the stripped bolt for around $20 bucks, what else would I need other than firing pin, spring, cocking piece etc.
     
  17. BillM

    BillM Active Member Supporter

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    Your best bet may be to buy another Carcano for parts. Here's one for $40---and it's pretty much complete.

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=480189606

    Unless the gun has some serious sentimental value (your favorite uncle brought it home from WWII??) or you just want
    to try your skills at gunsmithing on something that's no great loss if you botch it, there are better choices out there.

    Carcano ammo is a bit hard to find, and it's a bit pricey. The ammo clip (yes, not a magazine) falls out after the last shot,
    and the safety is almost as much of an abomination as the one on a Arisaksa. The Carcano's only claim to fame is that it
    is probably the last military issue rifle ever to use gain twist rifling. (well--that and the Kennedy thing)

    If you really like the look of old military iron, Mosin Nagant, SKS, Hakim, Mausers in 47 flavors, the SMLE and lots of other options that
    are not crazy spendy or hard to feed might be a better choice.