need computer help guys..

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by trip286, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    My lawyer gave me back my ex's computer.

    The tech geeks basically just stripped the drive out and copied it, and completely bypassed the administrator password.

    So....
    Now I have a brand new (almost) Toshiba satellite c655 that I can't log onto because I don't have the password.

    I've been looking online for methods to get around this issue. I've tried every method I can find but one. The "last resort" method. The one I least want to try. That would be the method of downloading a third party program and using it on this computer. I also don't want to take it to someone (but I suppose I could if I had to.)

    Any suggestions?
     
  2. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Maybe I can trade it to a nerd with a gun...
     

  3. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    Bet you could...
     
  4. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    I'm really, really, seriously considering it.

    But, she may have put some of my personal info in here and that's a little more valuable than a gun. I'd like to be able to find out.
     
  5. DrumJunkie

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    What's the operating system?
     
  6. texaswoodworker

    texaswoodworker New Member

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    Trip, if you do trade it, take it to someone first, and have it wiped clean and returned to factory settings. If I was the recipient, I'd appreciate it (it really would be a (still used but) new computer at that point), and you wouldn't have to worry about personal info getting out. I think when they wipe it clean, the info on it is gone forever. I don't know if there is any way to get it back, but I guess it could be possible.
     
  7. DrumJunkie

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    Here's a pass cracker for Admin passes on machines running Windows XP through 7. The guys at sourceforge make some awsome stuff.
    Click here to download ophcrack. I used it on a XP box a while back. It can be time consuming depending on the amount of characters in the pass.

    Future reference after you get this done make a second admin account and you can use one to modify the other. And maybe think about making a key disc or at the least make a hard copy of the pass(es) and put them in your gun safe or other secure lo0cation. And ALWAYS use no less than 8 chars in a pass. It just makes it harder to crack for those pesky precocious 15 year olds. I recommend that with any pass used anywhere. Use all available chars and no less than 8.
     
  8. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Windows 7 home premium

    That's kinda what I would like to do. Tally, I could use a new computer myself, so it's kinda up in the air on the trading deal. I may keep it, I don't know.

    And it really is practically brand new. She only had it for about a week before I snatched it when I left.

    On a side note, because I know someone will eventually wonder, yeah, it's legally mine now. I took it a marital property, but she signed some kind of release.
     
  9. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Thanks drum junkie. I'm trying not to go that route except as a last resort.

    but I'm definitely keeping it in mind.
     
  10. DrumJunkie

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    Info is rarely gone forever. When you delete something the machine just allocates that space to be written on again. Nothing is really deleted. One can blow the partition that was used for windows, create a new partition, then format that partition and most people will not be able to retrieve the data. Even then some still can. But the only sure way to make sure data is not able to be brought up again is to overwrite it again and again until the old data is unreadable. It usually takes about 4 to 6 times overwrite with meaningless data to destroy the good stuff underneath. You would be surprised to see what computer repair guys retrieve from hard drives when the customer thinks they are safe because they delete it them empty the recycle bin. Or even more misleading a formatted hard drive.

    If you know someone personally that is the best bet in making sure your data is not recovered later.
     
  11. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    How about installing a new HD and put the current on in an external drive?
    Although you may not be able to get to all files, you should be able to get to some.
     
  12. DrumJunkie

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    There are ways to retrieve that pass using other means. But it will require a lot of funky typing.
    The sticky keys method

    Repair Disc method
     
  13. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Oh there's nothing on it I want. And the likelihood that she put my name b day and social on it are slim to none.

    The chances that an average Louisiana redneck with a gun would look for such stuff when he's more likely browsing porn...

    I fell I would be safe. But.... Still want to look and make sure.
     
  14. purehavoc

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    Trip if you just looking to wipe it clean and start fresh / new password . when it starts up you should be tapping the F8 key , it should give you a option to reformat the computer , however you will lose anything that was on it. it will take around 40 minutes
     
  15. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Ok, I should specify...
    The only thing I have is the computer. No discs or flash drives. I can get one, but I'd rather not.

    Is there no hack like XP has? I'm not very tech literate, and even I can hack into XP from safe mode.
     
  16. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    It won't even let me do that without the password :(

    I'm really thinking I'm going to end up having to use a third party program.

    I hate how Microsoft doesn't even give you a disc with a new computer anymore. I'd already be done
     
  17. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Go back to Toshiba and explain that you need the original recovery disks.

    If you explain everything, then maybe they'll help.

    Promise them an "Atta Boy" on this site, or a "raspberry" if they are unwilling to help.
     
  18. purehavoc

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  19. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Junkie- I have my sure fire means of erasing a hard drive. It involves the AC electromagnet on the crane at the scrapyard, a shredder, and the smelting furnace.

    Drastic, but secure. :D