Need A Quick Opinion Please ....

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by jw7676, Aug 28, 2011.

  1. jw7676

    jw7676 New Member

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    Good Afternoon All,

    I have a situation that I hope someone may be able to assist me with.

    I feel like a real "newbie" at this. I would like to get back into target shooting. For a no. of reasons, I have not shot a handgun in probably 30 some yrs, much less picked up a handgun.

    I am looking to purchase a Glock Mod 19 GEN4. A friend of mine has one and I love it. I have a Thompson 1911-1A .45 ACP pistol (1981) brand new still in the box, wrappings and all paperwork.

    I went to a local Gun Show in my area yesterday. I met a gun shop owner(local) and showed him this pistol. [He is supposedly a "premium Glock dealer" (??)] Anyway, he is interested in my pistol and asked how much I was asking for it. I then asked him "how much cash AND this pistol for a Glock Mod 19 GEN4 ??". He thought a moment and said "$150.00 cash & this pistol ....". I hesitated just for a second said it's a "deal".

    Since the show was closing for the day, he said stop by my shop on Monday & bring the pistol and the cash and we can start the paper work for you 3-day waiting period and you can pick up the new pistol on Thursday.

    My question to everyone is this a Good Fair or Bad DEAL ?? Did I get taken in this deal ??

    Any comments, opinions or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you in advance, JW7676.
     
  2. towboater

    towboater Well-Known Member

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    Fair deal.
    But I wouldn't trade a 1911 for a glock. I just don't like em.
     

  3. crazycharlie2

    crazycharlie2 New Member

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    I wouldn't trade a NIB 1911 for a Glock.
    For target shooting give the 1911 a chance, but it's your money.
     
  4. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    auto ordanance 1911a1 according to my bluebook (2yrs old) lists them for 450$ nib. the AO 1911s werent the best out of the box 1911s. if it was a colt or a springfield i would call ya a nut... but while i personally think glocks are some of the worst guns on the market safety wise, value wise you did ok to very good.
     
  5. eborden1122

    eborden1122 Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Make sure you get the nice glock you want with everything on it you want and do the deal. Dont let him talk you into a plain jane glock while you hand over your new 1911 and your $. Enjoy your new glock. Ed
     
  6. CHLChris

    CHLChris New Member

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    What options does a Glock have? Not being a hater, but it seems that almost every Glock in every flavor seems to be about the same price, give or take a little bit. Isn't every GLOCK a plain jane vanilla Coke?
     
  7. eborden1122

    eborden1122 Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Ive seen them with lasers, ported, all sorts of stuff. I'm not saying straight out of the box stuff. He might be able to swing something though.
     
  8. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    i think i misread that!! your also giving 150$????? no, bad deal. unless its like a kimber or a ria straight up maybe. your gun is a 450$ gun the glock is a 499$ gun. the glock is gonna lose half its value the second you touch it. the 1911 is worth double the glock value after the trade.

    strike what i wrote before
     
  9. AOK

    AOK New Member

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    Wow, that's a very odd and silly statement.

    The trade is fair value wise. As others mentioned, a Glock 19 isn't your typical target shooting gun. People generally like them more for self defense. With that said, you got yourself a very nice handgun!
     
  10. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    not really, go google some "glock leg" images and stories...

    it happens to officers a lot. shooting holes in the floor boards of patrol cars or holes in legs. piece of holster bends inwards a little, clothing gets in the trigger guard any number of things gun goes in holster trigger gets yanked holes go in legs and such.

    a heavier da pull or a external safety, not on the trigger, tends to prevent that in other designs.

    carrying a glock in my opinion is about the same level of safety as carrying a revolver cocked. long as your finger isnt on the trigger they wont go off. but a foreign inanimate object in the trigger guard can easily set either off.

    this is especially true for glocks that have lightened triggers.

    anyway im not gonna call you bad names for liking a glock if you do thats your business. but the fact remains there is no real external safety on glocks
     
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  11. Hawg

    Hawg New Member

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    Bad, bad deal. Keep the Thompson and get a new mag for it. That was their main hangup.
     
  12. AOK

    AOK New Member

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    Yeah, I've read them or seen them before. I understand the thought process you are pointing out, I guess my personal opinion it they were literally ALL the gun owners fault, not the gun itself. Obviously off topic here so I'll just leave it at that. :D
     
  13. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    You are 100% right AOK. Shocking how many gun owners want to blame unsafe gun handling on the tool. Hmm....

    I've used Glocks for 25 years and never had one go nuts in my hand, holster, or on my nightstand.
     
  14. vincev

    vincev New Member

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    I think I would keep the 1911 and buy a used glock.I have sold used Glocks for $299-$350.They are a basic trouble free gun .If you did have a problem they are easily fixed.I have sold used ones that are as good as a new one but a lot less money.Good luck which ever way you go. Chicago and a handgun? you live dangerously!
     
  15. CHLChris

    CHLChris New Member

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    Yes, let's definitely have a 1911 vs. Glock dust-up in a thread about a good or bad trade.

    Are you asking because you had a sinking suspicion that you made a bad deal? JonM, I'm not sure that Glocks really go down in value after purchasing. I think the used market (at least where I live) is pretty strong and popular guns are holding their value.

    Sadly, Glocks are in that category of "popular guns."
     
  16. jw7676

    jw7676 New Member

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    How can I tell it is a 4GEN glock and not a 3GEN ??

    How can I tell it is a 4GEN glock and not a 3GEN ?? Any differences ?
     
  17. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Nah just the used market has a LOT of glocks. Ive fired glocks a bit but never owned one i keep trying things out every now and then to see if my tastes have changed. I keep an open mind. My next handgun is prolly going to be an xdm in 45 altho a 19+1 9mm version may tempt me

    But if the OP is paying 150 and a 1911 in 100% condition for a glock then its not a good deal. If he gets 150$ in mags to go with it might change it a bit.
     
  18. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    The gen4 has that stamped on the side. The 3 and below do not. Mostly the diff is in the mag design grip design and mag release. Maybe some small internal changes
     
  19. Recomm

    Recomm New Member

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    Gen 4 has more narrow grip, different stippling, larger mag release, double recoil spring and different sights. Not much else but thats enough for me personally to know the gen4 is a better buy.
     
  20. jw7676

    jw7676 New Member

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    Thank You All !!!

    I would like to thank all of you for lending me your time and Your extensive knowledge of hand guns !!!! I really appreciate it all !!! jw7676