Nagant Revolver

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by zaitsev44, Sep 24, 2012.

  1. zaitsev44

    zaitsev44 Active Member

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    I know you can get replacement .32 S&W cylinders for the Nagant revolver, but I also heard you can shoot .32 S&W Long out of the original cylinder without problem. Can anyone make this situation clear?
     
  2. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Texaswoodworker
     

  3. ineverFTF

    ineverFTF New Member

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    Yup that's your guy.
     
  4. zaitsev44

    zaitsev44 Active Member

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    So is he saying that you can readily shoot .32 S&W or .32 H&R without changing the cylinder?
     
  5. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    I sent him a pm for ya.
     
  6. texaswoodworker

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    Yes, you can shoot 32 S&W long, and short out of a Nagant. You do not need a replacement cylinder to do this though. If shot in the original cylinder, the brass will bulge some (and possibly split), and the accuracy won't be super great, but it will work.
    If there is a replacement cylinder in 32 S&W (never heard of one in 32 S&W), that will prevent the bulging, and may improve accuracy.
    I would not recommend getting one in 32 S&W though unless you reload for it. 32 S&W is getting hard to find, and it is getting expensive. They DO make a replacement cylinder for the Nagant in 32 ACP. I would recommend that one instead. 32 ACP is easier to find and cheaper than 32 S&W, at least it is for now. The cylinder may be a little off though, and you'd have to adjust it. The Russians fitted each gun together, so not all of them are exactly the same dimensions. IIRC, there are a few good videos on how to do this on youtube.
    A third option you could choose would be using the original ammo or reloading for it. The original ammo can be found as cheap as $20 per 50, and the reloaded ammo can cost as little as $0.20-$0.25 per round. Maybe less if you reload a lot of it.
    I go over reloading the ammo in the article below. Be warned though, if you reload for it, there is almost no data out there. I use 2.5 gr of trail boss, 32-20 brass that has been re-sized using LEE 7.62 Nagant dies, and .32 caliber lead bullets. Be sure to read the article section about reloading, the lead can cause some minor problems.

    If you want to know more about the gun, and it's ammo, skim through this.

    http://www.firearmstalk.com/entries/m1895nagantrevolver.html

    If you have anymore questions, just let me know.
     
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  7. texaswoodworker

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    You can do exactly that. .32 H&R is a little hot though. I shot 50 rounds of it through mine, and it handled them just fine, but I would not recommend shooting a TON of it.
     
  8. nitestalker

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    The 32-20 brass and cast lead .320 bullets worked OK for me. They are sized in a Nagnt die of course. They do not have the gas seal which is of no value any way. Becareful to not load .32-20 loading data I blew a Nagant apart doing that.:(
     
  9. texaswoodworker

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    OUCH! How serious was it?
     
  10. nitestalker

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    It broke the hand and ripped the lugs off the rachet. The chamber was swelled top strap was bent. It was wrecked. The .32 WCF is just too much for these guns. They are made for weak low pressure rounds. I found that out the hard way.:)
     
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    Thanks, you really clarified the situation for me. I'm in the process of negotiating a '45 Nagant revolver, and knew surplus ammo was hard to find when not in bulk and wanted to see of I could shoot .32 without having to find an aftermarket .32 cylinder.
     
  12. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    When I had one of these guns I shot S&W .32 long, but it was just about as expensive as the correct ammo.

    Is is my imagination, or bad memory, or did someone sell a cylinder for these for .32 acp? I seem to remember that J&G offered the cylinder for sale a few years ago, for around $75.00.
     
  13. zaitsev44

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    Ok, thanks for all the feedback. Because of the difficulty of getting surplus ammo, should I get a CZ model pistol or another Russian surplus pistol?
     
  14. nitestalker

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    You are OK. I think Navy Arms imported those for a time. They were later sold off by J&G and others. The .32 ACP proved to be too much for many of these old guns. That is why they were taken off the market.
     
  15. TWMIM

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    CZs in 9x18 are good to go, ammo is plentiful.

    The CZ-52 is drying up, and ammo is getting harder to come by.

    New production Nagant ammo isn't horribly expensive, but the days of plinking away all day because of plentiful surplus are gone.
     
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    If I'm not mistaking, AIM has either CZ-72's or CZ-52's for $199 I think. Does anyone know if their import marks are big like on the Nagants, or along a thin piece of hard to notice metal?
     
  17. zaitsev44

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    My bad they have Tokarev M57's for $199. Does anyone know if they're any good?
     
  18. silverado113

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    Yep we keep Texaswoodworker around specifically for these Nagant revolver questions.
     
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    Are the Tokarevs a good alternative to a Nagant revolver?
     
  20. Garadex

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    Well it's Russian and surplus but not a revolver. So I would say if you are looking for a cheap gun then yes but if your looking for a cheap revolver than no. And I'm not saying that's the inly reason to buy them I just don't know your reason.