my s.h.f plan in the process...

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by marlin-owner, Dec 14, 2011.

  1. marlin-owner

    marlin-owner New Member

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    okay so where do i start... i have sucessfuly formed a legal militia in the arizona desert. and we have been burrying chaches of food and ammo in world war 2 ammo cans. due to the gasket for water resistance. this is nothing too military like but i am teaching people marksmanship and consealment skill's in case the sh!t does hit the fan we have somewhere to go. along with bringing some sort of refuge for the people already in it. everything we need for about 6 months of rationing are buried around a general area of the az desert. plus bits of ammo in assorted cans. i think this would be extremely helpful in a catastrophic crisis, knowing where to find food and survival supplies. tell me what you guys think about it???
     
  2. aandabooks

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    Any plan is better than no plan at all. I don't know about heading for the desert, especially in the summer months. Would definately make survival harder but you would have much less competition for supplies because most people wouldn't willingly venture into the desert.
     

  3. marlin-owner

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    i have lived in the desert for about 17 or so years i sometimes disapear for a week or so and go into the desert. water is not as hard to find as one would think. now food. most of the life out there is edible including raddle snake. it is a really stringy meat
     
  4. jon1992d

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    I wouldnt have posted that i have suplies in the desert buried. But it is a very good idea training people having a militia and having supplies just incase. Do you have a building and area you own were you could hunker down if anything happened? Also isnt the arizona full of mexican bandit groups? Just wondering i saw something that said it wasnt a safe place.
     
  5. jon1992d

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    Arizona desert full of bandits?
     
  6. marlin-owner

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    no its not bad. i would say the area but i am not gonna have a million treasure hunters go get my things i put away for a rainy day. but no only the far south part of the az desert has severe problems with the cartel groups. yes i do have a bit of land that i am building an under ground "lair" so to speak. kinda like the construction of a mine. just good enough to do the job
     
  7. marlin-owner

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    you dont have to re-fraze that. most of the az population thats white wants the mexicans to go home. mostly everyone is a racist just because there town is getting over-run. i personaly dont like it, but i keep to myself about it. its not safe talking bad about illegals when the whites in az are becoming the minority to illegal immigrants.
     
  8. jon1992d

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    The mine style bunker is a very interesting idea. That could be very conveiniant for moving all kinds of supplies in and out. And who the heck in there right mind would go into a dark mine shaft to try and hunt down people or supplies?! (not me) and thats a damn shame the Az gov is trying to fight back against mexicans and everytime they do the feds put them in there place.
     
  9. SK2344

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    Plans are a good thing but what happens when your 3 or 6 month supply of stuff runs out, then what! Then you may start to see the true nature of the people you are with when the fight starts over food and water. This will be worse than the greed and the fight over gold. I have a plan and that is to stay out of everyones way and do my own thing! Lock and load gentlemen and enjoy the Future. If nothing else, it will be interesting to see what happens. I will always save just one bullet!
     
  10. marlin-owner

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    very good pointers. everyone has to run out of supplies sometime. thats why its always a good idea to keep stocking little by little till it does happen. then bail cities. the not so distant future will be interesting, and history in the making. i will use everything in my grasp to survive even if it gets me killed. better to die trying then to die sitting down. at this point i believe any bit of supplies will help out but ultimately exhausted rations are inevitable
     
  11. Sniper75

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    When shtf you can guarantee that alot of mexicans are going to be heading north.. I am not a racist by any means but just using common sense
     
  12. marlin-owner

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    i understand completely. that is something i took into consideration when choosing a good location. there is always a chance that it wouldnt work out as planned but what is life without taking risks???
     
  13. Caoimhin

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    I'm not to worried about the Mexicans. They are not here to stay they come for money. When there is no more money and they can't earn any they (98%) will go home. Listen to them when you come across any. They long to be able to return to their home in Mexico, they are only here for money 1st and then opportunity second. Many of them move back and forth on a monthly basis. Crossing the boarder is no big deal for them. The people who get caught are usually first timers from southern Mexico. The odds are good you all deal with an illegal on a daily or at least weekly basis. It is good that the OP has a desert set up. I don't expect uncle sam to waste contractors on desert people in the 1st yr of the takeover. Have some fun and play in the desert, those skills you all develop will someday serve you well. Wish I had some extra time to pop over and play too. The Gun Shop in Springerville usually takes up a big part of my time going to Phoenix though.
     
  14. marlin-owner

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    haha. how is the shop up there? i know that farther north like payson and pinetop there is only 2 or so places to buy ammo and guns. i have not been to the one you speak of yet...
     
  15. Scratchammo

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    You just might see me there by a motorcycle & a campfire.
     
  16. Caoimhin

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    It's a good shop. Haven't been in about 2 yrs. That is hunting, ranching and militia country as well as the gate way to the Gila wilderness and the Arizona Alpines and Rim country. Rt on US 60 sure is pretty as you cross from New Mexico into Arizona. I was surprised a remote place having such an inventory.
     
  17. bkt

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    That's not racist at all - it makes a lot of sense. If the Mexican government falls and the cartels take over, there will almost certainly be a huge surge of refugees from Mexico into the U.S. and that will not help us any.

    Then again, if the upset is in the U.S. and not Mexico, it could mean the repatriation of a great many Mexicans....
     
  18. marlin-owner

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    i dont know. i think if russia mostly... and china and or there friends do happen to come over here and start problems on our turf, that they might bribe or what have you to canada and mexico to not help us out if we show up at there front door. kinda like if you help them, we kill you. type of thing... idk just a thought
     
  19. Recon 173

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    I keep thinking about moving to places with an abundance in good, clean water. I'm thinking Tennessee, Maine, South Carolina, Georgia and so on. Once there I'll begin to stock up on food, medicine and ammo. I can see Texas as a good place to move to and live in too. I also want to get away from severe snow storms and bitter cold too. Arizona is not high on my list of ideal survival places. Nice people out there and some really beautiful sunsets but it seems to be way too dry for my liking.