My proposal to Regain Control of Government

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by Kelly J, Sep 1, 2010.

  1. Kelly J

    Kelly J New Member

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    My proposal to Regain Control of Government
    Of the People, By the People, and For the People!

    This is an attempt to clear out, and get the Government back on a footing with the American People, and regain our Republic Form of Government, For Which it stands. GOD Bless America!
    Bear in mind that to serve as a United States President, Legislator, or Supreme Court Justice, is an act of Community Service to the Country not a Career Job.

    · Return the Government to the United States Constitution as written and Ratified by the People!
    · First off it has been established that a President can not serve more that two 4 year terms as President, so Term limits are not out of the question, so I have included a proposed Constitutional Amendment in line with Article V of our Constitution to set term limits on members of the Legislative Branch of Government.
    · When the President leaves office after serving his terms he will be entitled to the Same Compensation as that of a SS retiree, and be Eligible for Medicare/Medicaid the same as a SS Retiree would be.
    · Propose a Constitutional Amendment to limit terms of the Senate to two 6 year terms in Office, and the House to 6 two Year terms in Office. This should still allow for a Continuing flow of Government and eliminate the Good old Boy Club, at the same time. The new Oath of Office will help to get the Congress to do the Peoples work not the Legislators agenda. I would also add that upon leaving Office at the end of their served term, that they be allowed to receive a retirement compensation equal to that of a SS retiree, without any of the Special Medical Benefits afforded a Legislator while serving Active Service to our Government. But they will be eligible for Medicare/ Medicaid.

    · All Candidates must sign a pledge to cut spending everywhere they can and reduce the size of the Government to within The Constitutional Provisions laid out. Knowing that a Violation of this pledge is grounds for removal from office, and forfeiture of any compensation, and will be barred from ever holding any Public Office of trust in the future.
    · Abolish the IRS, Trash the current Tax Code completely, and institute the Fair Tax, Start with a Tax of 30%, for an immediate trial, if it does as I am convinced it will after the first two years cut the rate back to 23%, and see how well that works, At no time would it ever be raised above the first 30% and can not go below 1%.
    · As part of the Oath of Office there will be added a clause that “I agree never to approve the spending of non Constitutional Funds, or any Pork Barrel Projects, and I am here to Representative of the People of My State, not My Party.
    · Agree to eliminate any Government Programs and or Departments that are not authorized by the Constitution, with the Exception of SS, Medicare, Medicaid, as these programs are a Contract with the People, but these Programs will be monitored very closely for any fraud, or Misuse. The Supporting funds for these Three Programs will be put into a separate Fund, totally away from the reach of the Congress, these funds can only be used for the purpose intended, unless approved by the Recipients for emergency reasons, and once the reason has been taken care of it goes back into the former state, and the funds used will be repaid out of the General fund ASAP, no longer will people be subject to Governmental Theft of our Money.

    · The Appointment of Supreme Court Justices must come from the Law Practice and by Sitting judges, that will observe the Written Constitution as it was ratified by the people and any changes to the Constitution will be done through the Article V Constitutional Process, no more Legislation from the bench, the letter of the Law will be observed at all times, and by all Judges, State or Federal, without exception.
    · Under no circumstances will any Judge, Legislator, or President allow or approve of any plan, Treaty, or agreement that would in any way undermine or attempt to nullify any part of our Constitution or surrender any part of our National Sovereignty.
    · All bills proposed by any Legislator must include as part of the bill from where within the Constitution the Proposal gets its Constitutional Authority to become a Law if Signed. A review by the Supreme Court Justices for the Constitutional Content of the Proposed Bill/Legislation, after approval by both Houses, and prior to the President Signing it into Law. If the Bill/Legislation does not pass Constitutional Scrutiny it will be returned to the House of Representatives for Correction or a rewrite, then resubmitted to the normal Process for final approval.
    · The confirmation of appointed justices to the Supreme Court Bench will be conducted by the Senate Judiciary committee, as usual but with out the hearings being on the TV. Dog and Pony Shows are not in the best interest of the Process and serves only to provide a Political Platform for the Parties to flex their political muscles. I would also add that any Justice that renders an Unconstitutional Decision to any case before the Court should be removed from the Court and not be compensated in any way for any past service to the Court. I would also make it mandatory that any Justice serving on any Federal Court will retire at the age of 70 Years, and awarded a modest Retirement not to exceed that of a SS Retiree. And any Health Benefit Received while a Justice serving on the Bench of the Supreme Court shall also expire at the end of their Service To our Country. But they would be eligible for Medicare/Medicaid, same as a SS retiree.
    · Last but not least; Any Violation of the Oath of Office or Conduct of any member of the United States Congress, will be dealt with without predigest, and brought to a swift conclusion, if the conduct is of a nature that warrants Removal from Office, it will be done immediately, and there will be no benefits owed to the ousted member, and they will be forever barred from holding any public Office in the Future.

    This proposal submitted this 31st day of August in the year of our Lord 2010. It is in no way binding, as it has no Constitutional Authority other than my Freedom of Speech. And my desire to see our Country return to the Greatness it once was.

    I am fully aware that these proposals will not sit well with a lot of people especially the Government, but I honestly think it is long overdue that "WE THE PEOPLE" take an active part in the Government, espeially the Control of it.
     
  2. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    Good Luck!

    It's my belief there is just too much of the let the other guy worry about that and you can't fight city hall attitude out there for this to happen.

    It would take every red blooded American to stand and demand these changes for the government to respond. It would take every American circulating petitions, and working for these changes to have them incorporated in our Constitution.

    Some good ideas, except I like the open confirmation hearings. It shows you where people stand!
     

  3. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    I think a term limit of sorts might be easier to pull off if more Americans took the time to be more active in how the government works. The people could just vote them out. Though I think if it's good enough for the POTUS it should be plenty good enough for both houses too. But I don' think it would ever happen. Anymore than a third party will get the job at the White House. I really like the ideas in the post. I wish at least some of it could become possible. But they are making way too much money off the people to give it up. They're junkies now.
     
  4. Kelly J

    Kelly J New Member

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    It is an idea and a seed, if it grows great if not, then it says we like it the way it is!
     
  5. Kelly J

    Kelly J New Member

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    I do honestly think that if the GOP gains both the House and Senate some of these Ideas could become a reality, all it would take is the Gahonies to start the process, instead of saying it would never happen.
     
  6. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    Kelly, in order for a seed to grow, the soil must first be cultivated and the seed bed prepared. Once the seed is planted, it must be nurtured and cared for. The rows must be kept free of weeds and the seedling must be constantly fed with nutrients and water.

    As long as you intend to treat this seed with that kind of care, it has a chance. If you are casting your seed onto the concrete, it will be crushed by foot traffic or consumed by foraging birds.
     
  7. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    I like some of your ideas. The flat tax at 30% would be a tough sell, especially since probably 90% of the population currently pays a lower rate.

    I would like even more restrictive term limits, though; one & you are done.
     
  8. Kimber45

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    My $.02,
    Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators or Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States.

    Next would be term limits. I recommend the maximum any politician may hold office for is two (2) terms and never electable to that office or an equal office. If elected to congress, either house or senate and serves two terms by reelection he has fulfilled his obligation. I'd also change the time served to 3 years per term!

    Career politicians are the disease that is killing America.
     
  9. alsaqr

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    There is no reason for me to believe that a Republican controlled government would do anything other than they have done in the past. For years the Republicans ran everything: All they accomplished was to spout feel good rhetoric and drive the the national debt out of sight.

    We need to vote all of the long serving scumbags of both partys out of congress.
     
  10. Kelly J

    Kelly J New Member

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    The tax I mentioned is the Fair tax not the Flat Tax!
     
  11. Kelly J

    Kelly J New Member

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    With regard to spending, the current President has signed into law more debt that any President from Washington to Bush II Combined so how does that weigh in on the Equation?
    Not saying they did nothing wrong because that would be a Lie.
     
  12. Kimber45

    Kimber45 New Member

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    Who said anything about republicans or democrats? Why do you feel this is an anti-democratic forum? Why do you feel you need to bash one and defend the other? How about as Kelly quote WE THE PEOPLE?
     
  13. Kelly J

    Kelly J New Member

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    I thought about that Issue and the only reason I did not include it was to try to address the most important first after that a lot of other ideas could and should be implemented, we have to try to start somewhere.
     
  14. Kelly J

    Kelly J New Member

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    My proposals have nothing to do with a party affiliation, and for the record without naming names there are enough on both sides of the fence to blame but that isn't what this is about.
     
  15. Angry_bald_guy

    Angry_bald_guy Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I like it, with the exception of Social Security. I want it and all other wealth redistribution programs gone.
     
  16. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    My apologies; i misread. In that case, i can not agree with your proposed tax reform, as i don't think the middle class needs to bear a larger portion of the national tax burden, and that is one of the probable outcomes of the "Fair Tax", as i have seen it described. Further, coming from a background as a state tax auditor who worked with a large number of auditors primarily concerned with sales tax audits (puke smiley), i sincerely believe that such a tax would require even more audits to ensure compliance, meaning that the Infernal Revenue Service would require even more budget & personnel & authority, rather than less. Of course, opinions on taxation vary greatly, and mine is only based on a passing familiarity with the "Fair Tax" and a decade or so in tax regulation supported by a masters degree in accounting and another decade or so in a small public accounting practice. :)

    I still like the term limits idea, though.
     
  17. Kimber45

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    It should never be about the parties, one leans one way, the other the opposite and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. The goal here is to restore the Republic before we become a socialist nation.

    Are people who believe in restoring the Republic of the republican party only? God I pray that isn't true or we have already lost.
     
  18. Kimber45

    Kimber45 New Member

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    Good post. Now to the word "Fair"? What is fair? Fair to you might mean 30% but fair to me might be 15% and what about the 47 to 49% of US citizens who pay not one red cent (AKA Indian Head penny) of federal income tax? What would fair be to them? Man talk about some pissed off people, going from paying NOTHING to 15 much less 30% of there wages? Yea Haw!!!!!
     
  19. Angry_bald_guy

    Angry_bald_guy Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I personally think a flat tax would be more appropriate. Set it at 17% and go with it.
     
  20. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Kimber, he is talking about a specific proposal, not a "flat tax" as i had misunderstood. FairTax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Wiki has a description & some links. It probably doesn't have many more problems than the current income-based tax system, but the IRS has had a few decades to start getting a handle on enforcement of the current system, at least.

    I had the same thoughts as you on the sudden jump for so many who currently pay soooooo little in federal income tax.