My one week layoff

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by markw2011, Sep 20, 2012.

  1. markw2011

    markw2011 New Member

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    This is kind of a rant / needing your opinions thread.
    I work for a company that has up until now handled the "recession" very well. Today a announcement was made that on October first through the fifth, the plant will close down due decrease in sales. And if sales still are not picking up by then we will go on what's called a "shared work program" this is where you work 4 7hr days and for the time left over everyone receives a unemployment check.
    My Problem is we just had out annual "shutdown vacation" which burnt up all the vacation time some of us had leaving me unpaid for this up coming lay off. We can file for unemployment for that week but I really don't agree with taking handouts. And I'm not to sure if I agree with the work share program. Most of my coworkers are more than excited about working less and getting equal pay from the program.
    While I don't make a tone of money I really can't afford to take any unpaid time, I also don't agree with people riding along on hand outs either. I have never been on unemployment, or any kind of govt assistance. Because I've always worked and never needed it. Should I just juggle bills and make due, or take the offer. My conscience is getting the best of me. Your opinions please.
    Could this be the beginning of the end for my company, maybe the economy is finally catchin up with us. Or is it just a temporary bump in the road.
     
  2. nosaj

    nosaj New Member

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    Dont worry about taking a hand-out.....by working 4 7's you will earn too much money to even qualify for partial unemployment check.
     

  3. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    If you qualify, take the benefits while you look for a better job in your spare time. The unemployment office people might be able to give you some leads.
     
  4. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    You have been working all this time paying into unemployment with each check. Really you are just getting some of YOUR money back, which is how the system was designed to work.

    It's NOT a hand out. A hand out is when you haven't done f*ck all and you want someone to give you something.

    You have been a working, tax paying citizen. You get to collect unemployment and NOT fee bad about it. You have been following the rules the whole time, these are part of the benefits of following the rules. ;)

    'Gello's right. Take any and all assistance you can get while you look for a new job. Use the time "off" to brush up the resume and make your job for the day to send out or submit "X" number of resumes.

    Then you are still "working" and you won't feel like you are "just being on unemployment".

    We have all been there at one time or another. Trust me, it sucks, but it's fair. You have earned it through getting up every morning and going to work.

    JD
     
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  5. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You are following in the footsteps of millions. Be glad that you have some payroll. If you have earned benefits, don't be bashful about accepting them. It doesn't make you a bum......

    I have worked in construction all of my life, and was laid off for the first time in 2009. It took me 54 weeks of diligent searching to find a job making 1/3 of what I made before. I figured out how to make it without too much sacrifice.

    When I was laid off I waited about 3 months before applying for unemployment benefits. Waiting was really not fair to my family, but I kept thinking I would be back to work any day.

    Good luck, hopefully things will improve soon.
     
  6. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    At one time u have paid for that unemployment use it while its available. My wife is currently laid off as the school didn't have funding for a extra pre K class this yr. Sad with all the state tax $$$ being pissed away on B.S. that kids have to miss out on the opportunity for early learning. She is looking for another job but she wants to keep her foot in the door there and today was offered a 2 hr , 3 day job teaching kids to read that need extra help. Still working but still collecting a check as it still doesn't pay what she made when teaching full time. :(
     
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  7. notdku

    notdku Administrator Staff Member

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    Unemployment is not a handout. Your employer pays that. They have been paying money for years so that when things like that happen you won't personally go under.
     
  8. gladesbassin

    gladesbassin New Member

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    Getting unemployment money is not a handout, you worked for that and it's not comming from the government it's comming from your employer.
     
  9. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    Slow down there, skippy, WE pay unemployment premiums.

    They snatch it right out of your check, with no permission

    asked, or granted. Then they jerk us around for WEEKS, before

    paying any benefits, and act like it's your lucky day, when they

    finally pay you your due...


    I'd recommend finding some other P/T work. THEN you're at the mercy of

    neither company. If either company wants you F/T, you have the

    leverage to force them to pay full boat...
     
  10. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    In MS, unemployment taxes are collected from the employer as a percentage of wages paid and with an annual cap on wages subject to the percentage/tax. It is not withheld from the employees wages, though it does reduce the free funds a company has available to offer as wages. The federal unemployment tax comes out the same way, not from the wages but from the employer based on the amount of the wages.

    This is how some small businesses get in trouble on wages; they don't realize the costs above and beyond the hourly wage.
     
  11. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    Never worked in MS...
     
  12. bearrwe

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    When I had my shop we had to pay into unemployment for our employees so we had to figure it into the compensation package. If you make 20 an hour your employer is paying unemployment, the office share of your insurance and liability insurance for accidents involving you. 20 bucks ends up costing a fair bit more for the employer in the end. That said, to the OP it is part of your pay so don't feel bad about using it.
     
  13. markw2011

    markw2011 New Member

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    So from what I'm understanding from coworkers, they did the same thing back in 08. For 6 months. I looked up the shared work program.

    http://www.labor.ny.gov/ui/dande/sharedwork1.shtm

    looks like it does come from UI Contributions. Or atleast it appears that way. From what their telling me you work four 7hr days and then you receive a unemployment check for the remanding hrs. Which usually equals out to about 15-30$ less than your normal weekly wages.
    I'm hoping I don't have to jump ship because I really like my job, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Most of the other places in this area are also suffering. Some have work but can't get material from vendors dues to massive layoffs. They economy is going down the tube. Only good thing about where I work is that it's a global brand and we get business from literally everywhere.
     
  14. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Pick a state, i'll read up tonight. The federal unemployment (940) works the same nationwide, so far as i know.
     
  15. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    In Florida, UC premiums are NOT held out of an employees paycheck. Neither is Federal UC premiums. The employer pays these and it can not, by law, be passed on the the employee.

    I don't have a clue how the other states handle state UC.
     
  16. lastrebel70

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    My dad worked for a company for 44 years and at the age of 72 they fired him. It's a long story about why they fired him but when he applied for unemployment for the first time in his life the company denied his claim. When the appeal came up they called my dad and asked him his version of what happened and after he told them his first check was cut that afternoon. When out was all said and done with the extensions and everything else he drew benefits for over 2 years. He had worked his entire life paying taxes and everything else and I see nothing wrong with him getting the benefits. So I say if you like you job then work the hours they are offering and draw your unemployment.
     
  17. partdeux

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    I'd be surprised if you collect any unemployment, you're pay will exceed the unemployment pay for the week.

    Having said that, this can be a great opportunity for a company to maintain their skilled workers and survive a temp situation and still survive. The risk is the most employable employees will seek work elsewhere. you will have to make an honest assessment of the company's chance of survival and decide to stick it out or seek other employment.

    Good luck!
     
  18. Vikingdad

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    I am an employer and I pay into unemployment for each employee and then if an employee is laid off from any job in the future then I have to pay more unemployment for that employee, as do other past employers.

    In reality unemployment is part of your overall compensation package (as is the "employer contribution" into SS and any other payments into medical, dental and what have you) in addition to your hourly wage or salary, but most people do not see it that way. However, if you never claim unemployment benefits then you are basically forfeiting that portion of your earned compensation.

    There is no shame in receiving unemployment benefits because you earned it!!!!!
     
  19. markw2011

    markw2011 New Member

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    This isint like going on your standard unemployment. So the same rules do not apply I don't think as far as the shared work program goes. I think they DO apply for the full week that were shut down. I was told that if we decide to apply for unemployment that week that we can only use 1day of vacation in order to be eligible.
     
  20. TWMIM

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    I'm with the others, unemployment compensation is not welfare.

    My feeling is that if the elections go well, the economy will surge based on the fact that investors won't be afraid, and the prospect of the Obamacare repeal.

    Hang on just a little longer...