My High Standard 1911

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by MrWray, Sep 15, 2011.

  1. MrWray

    MrWray New Member

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    I made a thread a couple of weeks ago about taking my High Standard to the gunsmith to have most of the parts switched out with Ed Brown parts. The gunsmith made a not so positive remark about the gun and made me feel awkward. Well i just received the call from him telling me tht my gun was finished.. He then told me tht once he started messing with it he was "pretty shocked and impressed" with the workmanship of the gun. He said tht at first he had his concerns since the gun is made in the philipines but after he took it apart He said tht the gun is easily compared to a colt 1911 and tht he had NO problems with installing any of the parts. Needless to say i am really happy to hear tht and i will post some before and after pics once i pick it up
     
  2. canebrake

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    Looking forward to your report!

    Glad to hear the good news that you have some new-found respect for the grumpy old gunsmith!

    Not to mention vindication in your decision to purchase the High Standard 1911. ;)
     

  3. CA357

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    Excellent! But...

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  4. MrWray

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    1 before and 2 after pics
     
  5. canebrake

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    Lookin' good! :cool:

    Now go get 'er dirty. ;)
     
  6. trip286

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    I've heard good things about the high standards, but that the Philippines thing scares a lot of people off. I'd like to get one, I've seen them run for $399 to $499. Of course there are about 1,000 different guns that I want right now.
     
  7. MrWray

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    The gunsmith's concerns were tht the gun wasnt going to b mil spec so the parts wouldnt fit as intended or tht the holes wouldnt line up to b able to install the parts. Like i said he told tht he recanted his prior statements, tht the High Standard is a damn good 1911. And tht he didnt have a single problem or even a hiccup when installing the parts. So now ive got a High Srandard slide and frame and all internals are Ed Brown
     
  8. neilage66

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    Good news!

    She looks great and I look forward to a range report which I trust you will post.

    Hi Standard is no stranger to the semi-auto pistol world.

    Take the HD Military for example.

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  9. MrWray

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    Thank you guys for the kind words, it was a long 2 weeks while it was at the gunsmith.. yes i will do a range report within the next couple of days, it will get a thorough break in
     
  10. danf_fl

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    I'm glad things worked out. Like everyone else, I would like to see a range report.
     
  11. MrWray

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    I finally aquired a little time to shoot today, i made out a range report on the range report section. Its not a long one due to i wasnt able to spend very time out so i hope tht it will do for now
     
  12. MrWray

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    Ive noticed tht my beavertail has a little play in it and rattles a tad when i walk, is tht a normal thing for it to be like tht?
     
  13. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Side to side, or like the sear spring is not holding it enough?
    If it is the sear spring and things are working safely like they are suppose to, then no problem.
     
  14. MrWray

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    Well it works perfect, i can just wiggle it a little bit and it makes a little noise when i walk
     
  15. oldman45

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    There are many guns that are inexpensive. The cost of a gun is often related to quality and anyone can understand that the more quality put into a gun will increase the price.

    The High Standard is not a Colt, S&W or any of the other pricey guns out there but will not cost as much either. It is a gun for the casual user. If you carry daily, use it often and depend on it for work use, then a nicer gun may be called for.

    Next thing to consider is having custom work done on an inexpensive gun. Spend $500 on a gun, then have $200-300 work done on it and you may as well bought a bottom or mid line quality gun. No matter what is done, the HS will not be as accurate or as fit as an upper end gun.

    As to the beaver tail rattle, that is a common problem and can be fixed very easily. There is a spring behind the beaver tail and it just needs to be bent slightly to create more tension. It will stop the rattle and it will feel better in your grip. FWIW: I have some 1911 guns in the $2,000 plus range and they have all had this problem at some time or another.

    You have a nice gun. Take it to the range and use it. There is no need in paying a lot for a gun that is only used 4-6 times a year at the range. My daily carry gun is a pricey 1911 that is shot 2-3 times a week and sees over 4,000 rounds sent down range annually. It is the gun my life depends on daily and in all types of weather. Under those conditions, I want a higher quality firearm.
     
  16. trip286

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    Oldman45 I have to disagree with you on one point. There are many many many workhorse guns out there that are cheap and used everyday, rode hard and put up wet so to speak. A multi thousand dollar custom would be nice, and I wish I could have one myself, but this guy's High Standard usually runs about the same price as my Smith and Wesson revolver, if not a little more. Mine has the supposedly cursed pinned barrel and the notched forcing cone, but I bet my life on it every day. I'm no longer pulling combat duty in Iraq and Afghanistan, but I still wouldn't be afraid to take it there any day of the week, and I do travel around Memphis quite a bit :) I've handled one of these High Standard 1911's when they came on the market a few years ago, and I'll tell you one thing, in the gunshop I was extremely impressed with the fit, finish and smoothness of the piece. The slide felt like it was riding on well oiled ball bearings. I handled a Kimber and Colt sitting in the case right next to it and they didn't feel half as nice.

    What I'm getting at, is yeah the big names have some nice tools, and probably great customer service, and good reliability. And while generally yes you do get what you pay for, there are somethings that are simply just a good value. For this High Standard, if you look at the stock set-up, it is comparably priced to some of the other makers such as springfield, the new remington, and I think the Colt series 70 (not sure on this one) particularly when it comes to the milspec models. Yeah the HS is a bit cheaper even than these, but really, other than the Philippines stamp on the dustcover, I'm really impressed.
     
  17. oldman45

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    It is your right to disagree with me. You are not the first to do so and I respect all opinions adverse to mine.

    Yet I would say your pinned barrel S&W is a nicer gun than a HS will ever be and has a lot more value on the used market. The quality that goes in to S&W is way past what goes into foreign goods.

    Are you aware the US government will not allow contracts for any items, especially firearm, that are not made in the US?

    As to trusting your life to a gun, that is up to personal interpretation. I have seen many deceased individuals due to a cheap (Saturday Night Specials) gun not working as it should. These are individuals that carried for whatever reason but when the odds were against them, their gun failed to work. NO law enforcement agency will use a HS. Their testing just does not meet the standards of high useage. Most departments use the name brand guns, be they Glock, S&W, Sig or whatever. When a person, such as I, goes into high risk areas to deal with low life people that has no respect for human life, we need a gun that will work every time and under the worst possible conditions. I have many firearms. Most are S&W but there are other name brand guns I own as well. I also own a Llama 1911. It was cheap to buy and it works flawlessly 90% of the time but I will not trust my life to 90%. I will occasionally shoot it or let others with me use it at the range. A HS is no different. It is a gun that works and at a reasonable price. However when it breaks or malfunctions, the cost to repair will increase the investment in the gun and can make it not cost effective to own.

    Consider the warranty on a HS. It is not a lifetime warranty but a limited warranty. Once someone has worked on the gun, even the limited warranty is no longer valid.

    Still, a good gun for the money but not for one that works with a gun daily. It is a great gun for self defense carry or target shooting. Unless the barrel is changed, it will not give 2" groups at 30 feet but then most shooters are not capable of doing that anyway. Again, it is a good gun and from what I got out of the original post, it will suit the owner's needs well for years to come.

    Also, their .22 pistol is assembled in the US and makes a great performing target gun.
     
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  18. trip286

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    This is what I was trying to say :)
     
  19. trip286

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    And yes I did know this, hence Beretta and FN Herstal plants here in the U.S.
     
  20. MrWray

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    After owning this gun and putting about 300 rounds through it, it has not made a hiccup or malfunctioned one time. I understand tht some people will look down on certain brands because they have the money to buy all these "high end" firearms so they become to good for anything below a certain price range.. In my eyes price isnt always everything.. Ive heard of some of these high end companies producing total crap tht is constantly needing repair or machining to get them to function properly. Ive shot my HS enough to know tht it isnt a saturday night special, u need to check out my range report and look at the photos. I would definately trust my life with it. Just because it doesnt cost over $1,000.00 doesnt mean its an unworthy 1911.. But like i said some people can afford to buy watever they want, the HS shouldnt get the stink eye just because its $500-$600