my first semi-auto shotgun

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by JonM, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    back in december i got shoot a saiga12 at shooters sport center in racine. it was totally fun to blast away with one and ive been looking for one that was already converted ever since. well last week i found one over at midwest industries in waukesha wis. so i grabbed one and one of their optics rail mounts for an ak47 a couple 8 round mags and a 12 round drum.

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    i did make an order for a 2 round hunting magazine, a tac47 autoplug, 12 round mag and a poly choke 2 adjustable choke that mounts externally on the already threaded barrel.

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    here is a closeup of the polychoke. im going to colorfill the setting markings

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    taking it out saturday and pop some clays hopefully it will confuse the range geezers with the vortex sparc on top.

    two things im not happy with is the stock, its waaaaay too long you gotta have some serious gorilla arms to shoulder it. not sure if im going to go magpul moe or get a standard length ak47 buttstock. the other thing is the handguard is not to my liking but that should be easy to swap out lots of options.
     
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  2. okdonk

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    Very sexy JonM! I probably will get that MI side rail. It sits just right on the dust cover unlike my UTG.
     

  3. JonM

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    the mi rail is very very solid you cant go wrong with their stuff. you do have to take the rail off to disassemble
     
  4. oli700

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    going to need a 12g tree now, looks fun. I really like my poly choke
     
  5. okdonk

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    Yes, it's similar to my UTG. The UTG sits kinda high unlike the MI. UTG is only $30 something while the MI is <$100 i believe.
     

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  6. JonM

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    i dont know anything about polychokes other than they are made in fondulac wisconsin. it sounded like a good solution to put on the end for bird hunting

    not sure how high it sits on an ak47 my saiga12 its like right on the dustcover. yeah the mi is 100ish but its supposed to return to zero every time
     
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  8. locutus

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    Better take a hard look at the Dillon 900 shotshell reloader!:D:D
     
  9. orangello

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    What kind/brand/size of stock is it?
     
  10. JonM

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    i have no idea it came with the gun. its called american length stock vs asian length. found that after a bit of looking. evidently asian length denotes the standard short stock common on ak47. its longer than the length of a basic rifle sized A1 or A2 ar15 buttstock. really poor choice to put on that gun.

    lol i dont shoot that much shotgun. since the wife has to go with to run the skeet tosser we go only a few times a year.
     
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  11. JonM

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    wife and i went to the range this morning. took the saiga for some clays and spent most of 3 boxes getting the tac47 autoplug to the right setting. it finally ended up being screwed fully in and was still not cycling. i was getting pretty disgusted and was thinking about just putting the stock plug in then all of a sudden it started functioning perfectly. GAME ON!! i think it just needed a little shooting to start working.

    sorry i didnt take video tis session but it was so bloody hot and humid it was all we had energy for was tuning it and shooting 100 birds. next time wont be till begning of august as i need to do some load development for the mcmiller iron 50 classic battle rifle shoot on the 22nd

    i had the polychoke set for extra full and the red dot vortex sparc ontop. i was always skeptical about how a rds would work on a shotgun... let me tell you its amazing!! i couldnt miss!! just put the dot on the clay pull the trigger and it was dust!! no trying to pick up the tiny bead, no lining anything up at all just dot-bird-boom.

    it did make a stir with some of the geezer crowd i found it totally amusing. my wife was having a hard time not busting out laughing at them lol.
     
  12. AleksiR

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    Awesome Saiga Jon! Thought you already had a tube fed semi-auto zombie shotgun but I may be wrong. I've been wondering if a rds would work for sporting clays, obviously it does :)
     
  13. JonM

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    nope i had a SxS and two pumps a 590a1 and a 835 both mossbergs. im not a great clay pigeon shooter but the rds was like cheating.

    after doing some reading i found that the main issue with saigas not cycling is obscured gas ports and or undersized gas port holes. i inspected mine closely and i could only see 2 and a half holes.

    after much struggle i got the gas block off and there are 4 holes!! two where completely obscured. first thing im going to try is drilling out the gasblock port hole and see if freeing up the rest of the gas holes works. if that doesnt get it to cycle with a more normal plug setting ill enlarge the holes to 5/64 each which is apparently the correct size for each hole on a 4 port gun.

    gotta love drunken russians building guns lol.
     
  14. AleksiR

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    Ok, I must've thought of somebody else.

    The good thing about russian made stuff is that you can usually fix them with a hammer and a flat head screwdriver, or in this case a small drill bit :D
     
  15. JonM

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    actually thats almost exactly the tools i used!! a hammer and a big screw driver lol!!