My first M1 Garand, AMMO Questions???? HELP!!

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by DrGonzo11, Jul 20, 2009.

  1. DrGonzo11

    DrGonzo11 New Member

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    OK, So I've finally got enough money together to get my first Garand. I'm planning on picking it out at the Gun show this Friday, but now I'm getting all these people telling me I can't shoot Commercial Ammo through them. Is this true?? Partially True?? Or Myth??? If it is, are there any types I can shoot, I've already purchased some 180 Gr Core Lokt and Federal ammo. Thanks for the Help.
     
  2. 30-30remchester

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    The M1 wasnt meant to fire modern ammunition. If you shoot factory 30-06 ammo it can bend your op rod. It was designed to shot M2 ammo. This was loaded with a 150 grain bullet and was loaded with 48 grains of IMR 4895 powder. This gave an entirely different preasure curve than does modern hunting ammo. Some people have used modern ammo in their M1 with sucess, however why chance it? More people have had troubles with this ammo than people who havent. You are in luck though, since at least 2 manufactures are making ammo strickly for the M1. Hornady is one and I cant remember who the second one is. Also there is lots of M2 ammo out there and it is easy to substitute FMJ bullets for soft point of the same weight.
     

  3. M14sRock

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    The CMP has Greek HXP M2 ball for a great price and it is very accurate stuff. Federal used to have an American Eagle M2 loading but I have not checked on it in a while.
     
  4. supergus

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    Also, Hornady has come out with an M1- specific round for the Garands. Of course I ordered some 3 months ago and haven't gotten 'em yet:(
    Sorry 30-30, didn't realize you already mentioned the Hornady rounds:eek:(just woke up)
     
  5. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I reload for the Garand using 147/150 grain bullets and powder that is no slower than 4895. A faster powder does not seem to cause the problems that a slower powder does. Mil-surp M-2 ammo is safe. Save the cases and reload. My rifle shoots about 5-6" with LC or HXP M-2 and sub 2" with a reasonable handload using W-748 or BLC-2.
     
  6. hunter Joe

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    168 gr. Sierra Match with 48 grs. 4064. No problem.
     
  7. ScottG

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    You might be better off just to purchase the Greek ball from the CMP. Accurate and a good price for bulk. It will just take a while to receive it, at least 120 days from order placement.

    You won't regret buying a Garand, although check to see if it's a CMP resell. I've seen quite a few vendors selling refurbished rifles that looked good as new, however they seemed very reluctant to tell the price. The CMP still has a few quality ones left for under $600, service grade and they have a refurbished with new wood option for $995 with original receiver and other parts, but new barrel. Much better to purchase one of those if you can wait, than to overpay for a resellers rifle.

    Also, don't forget to pick up a sling and bayo.
     
  8. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I use the Greek HXP and have some stored. It shoots great, it's accurate and it's clean. I have a 1943 Springfield M1.
     
  9. DrGonzo11

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    I understand all the M2 surplus stuff is good 2 go. But has anyone shot any CoreLokt winchester or Federal ammo??? Is it just flat out a NO NO or is it one of those things that if it works it works????
     
  10. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I have taken the advice of those who know more than me and do not shhot commercial ammunition in my Garand. Too much chamber pressure is the reason.
    Enjoy your Garand.
     
  11. Orlando

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    NO COMMERCIAL AMMO unless you use a adjustable gas screw . The exception is Hornady who makes a specifc rd for the Garand to bad its about $1.35 per rd.
    You have choices
    Surplus m2ball
    adjusable gas screw and any commercial ammo under 180 gr
    Hornadys ammo garand safe load
     
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  12. DrGonzo11

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    Well maybe I won't get one, how long is the M2 ball gonna last for ya know??? How easy to use are the Adjustable gas screws?? They're not too expensive.
     
  13. Orlando

    Orlando New Member

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    If you can afford comercial ammo you can afford a $35.00 adjustable gas screw
    Once theye are adjusted they are set unless you cahnge ammo brands,etc
    No one knows how long surplus ammo will be available
     
  14. DrGonzo11

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    I wasn't complaining about the price, $35 is cheap, and commercial 30-06 is only $13.50 a box @ Wally World, cheaper than M2 ball surplus if U can find it. CMP is 100+ days out and you gotta go through all their crap to get it. I'm just curious how easy it is to adjust the gas screws and if they actually do the trick, from what i understand they were actually designed for M1's that were re-chambered to .308.
     
  15. CA357

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    You can find a ton of Greek HXP on Gunbroker. It's more expensive than CMP, but you can have your ammo in a week.

    Good luck whatever you decide to do. I think you're gonna' love your Garand, there's just something special about them. ;)
     
  16. DrGonzo11

    DrGonzo11 New Member

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    I know, its that one gun that I've always wanted but never bought for myself :)
     
  17. Orlando

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    They are made for the Garand no matter what caliber.
    There is no "crap " you have to go through to purchase from CMP.
    Yes there is a wait and there are qualifications but it is easy and well wortth it for the money you save.
    [​IMG]
     
  18. DrGonzo11

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    Can surplus M2 ammo be reloaded??? And i just found out my father-In-law has 4,000 rounds of WW2 M2 stashed away in the basement from the 50's that he says I can have, so I guess I'm in business :D I'm a happy boy. Plus, he's giving be 400 rounds of Jap ammo so I can get a new Arisaka, i haven't had one in years because the ammo is so expensive. I've got enough saved for this show I'm getting the M1 Garand, Nazi Marked 98k Mauser, Arisaka, Another 03-a3, and if there's enough left another 1911a1.:):D
     
  19. Orlando

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    Is he giving you WW11 ammo or just the cases.
    If it is WW11 loaded ammo it would be corrosive.
    If it is cases it can be reloaded as long as it is boxer primed
     
  20. DrGonzo11

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    WW2 ammo, end blocks, bandoliers i'm assuming, he said they are original sealed cans. I don't care if its corrosive, almost everything else i shoot is, just means i get more quality time with my gun while I clean it. And i just had a fellow club member order me some CMP ammo, maybe I'll see it in a year or so.