Last night I was working a midnight shift and I was wandering through another gun forum. I came across a thread where someone wanted to know how to get his dad to buy a "good" AR because he had the "O" AR with a BSA red dot. The person even said his dad liked the set up and said by buying less expensive guns, it allows him to buy more. Anyway, the responses were to put it mildly, trashing any AR that wasn't in what most members called "the top 5". So then I went through other threads within the forum and found that if you don't have one of the "5" you aren't worthy and you have wasted your money on worthless junk. One person actually wrote that using an AR plinker like a Bushy or a RRA, you couldn't count on it for home defense or a disaster scenario. Another advised the OP to take it out and run it hard until it breaks, then have the dad get a good gun. I recognized a few being vendors and in the know but I'm willing to bet that 75% of the others have no proof or experience to knock another product and are only repeating what others have said. Now my AR wasn't named as in their named bottom tier junk(not my opinion), nor is it in the top 5, so being that it doesn't rate with them I'll just have to trash it, and the new upper I just bought. What a bunch of pompous %$&hats!