my ar 15 pistol

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by mark5019, Apr 26, 2014.

  1. mark5019

    mark5019 New Member

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    a Daniel defense upper 10.3 on a zombie lower
    with a sig brace


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  2. Yunus

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    That looks pretty awesome! It took me a minute to realize it was a pistol.
     

  3. mark5019

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    thank you its dead accurate waiting on my trust then get tax stamp for sbr
     
  4. cotex

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    If you don't mind me asking what did the trust run you for cost and how long from start to finish, how long was the process?
    Tex


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  5. Sniper03

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    Mark,

    Are you getting your SBR for this pistol or another rifle. I know the ATF has ruled the Sig Brace is not a Stock even though it could be used for one. Their ruling is it is not a stock even if used as one because that is not it's intended use!
    Just asking! Very nice AR Pistol you have there! Here is a picture of mine! It is mostly Rock River Arms Inc product except for KNS Anti Rotate Trigger and Hammer Pins, Quick take down Trigger and Hammer Pins, Rock River 2 Stage NM Trigger, Red/Green Dot Optic, Badger Tac Latch, RRA Star Safety Selector, Free Float Tube w Rail. Noveske Flaming Pig Muzzle Break. I plan on getting one of the SIG Tube Braces!

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  6. bigjim

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    Cool, that is awesome looking.

    Jim
     
  7. Eagle1803

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    Somebody coach me, that does not look like a pistol. but a nice rig.
     
  8. bigjim

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    Eagle, the Sig brace is allowed on the pistol and does not change it's classification. As long as he does not put a forward grip on it, it remains a pistol. A fixed or collapsible stock or forward grip would make it a SBR (Short Barrel Rifle) which would require a Federal Tax Stamp (and a bit of paperwork).

    Jim
     
  9. KG7IL

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    the Arm Brace works well as advertised. It also can help stabilize the pistol when held like a rifle stock. It really isn't a rifle stock. SB-15 does have it's limitations.

    Does not change classification, but it does change the looks.

    I like 'em.
     
  10. Eagle1803

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    Thanks bigjim, I really like the looks of them. something else to add to my collection:;)
     
  11. mark5019

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    you can put a angles forward brace on it

    and hold it to your shoulder
     
  12. mark5019

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    as soon as my trustis done im sending in paper work for stamp
     
  13. mark5019

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    me nothing a lawyer whos a member of georgia carrys is doing it for me
     
  14. Yunus

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    Ok just to be clear because I am possibly very confused. Not from you all but from whatever the ATF is defining at the moment as a pistol vs a rifle.

    So the Sig Brace is not enough to make it a rifle but the Sig Brace AND a fore grip would make it a rifle but the Sig Brace and an angled fore grip would not make a rifle. ?

    Is the above statement currently correct/incorrect? It's April 27, 2014, I'll post the date because the BATFE may decide to invalidate any responses in the future because they do whatever the heck they want.
     
  15. mark5019

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    I was told by a well-informed person angled grip is ok
     
  16. KG7IL

    KG7IL Active Member

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    no, no, no, no.... it never can be that easy.
    A pistol with the SB15 is a pistol.
    With a verticle foregrip it is AnyOtherWeapon. (AOW)
    With an angle foregrip it remains a pistol.
    If the SB15 is replaced with a 6 position stock it is a ShortBarrelRifle (SBR) unless it has a barrel over 16 inches then it has been converted into a Rifle.

    THERE.... EASY huh?. . .

    Here is some fun reading.
    http://www.quarterbore.com/nfa/sbr-aow-pistol.html
     
  17. kt1982

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    They all look very nice, can't wait to build mine.