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Discussion in 'Blackpowder & Musket' started by beastmode986, Jan 11, 2014.
Does anyone know of any muzzle loader build kits for under 200$? Rifle or pistol? thanks
Well my good sir, does 199.99 count as under $200 in your opinion?
I know it's pushing the line being close, but it an option, and as far as I know it'll ship to Kalifornia without issue.
If you do purchase it, I'd appreciate it if you let me know after how the build went, as I am contemplating one myself but I haven't won over the missus about it yet.
Check out dixiegunwork.com. They have a few kits below your mark. They also have some way way over your mark. I have ordered from them a few times, and had good luck.
Thanks, both sites are great.
I don't know about the pistols, but I bought a hawken, and a Kentucky long rifle, the cheaper kits, the parts were decently nice, but the wood stocks needed extensive inlay work to have the metal parts lay in it neatly, I didn't have the tools to make them look nice, so I sold them. I still want to build one, but I will get a better kit, I've heard good things about track of wolf kits, but they are kinda pricey.
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A 200 dollar kit isn't going to be good quality but if you just want to learn its fine for that.
Long gone are the days of the $69.00 Kentucky rifle kit. (still have mine, still shoots great)
About a month ago - at the range, I fired a big bore Hawken. Owner said it was from a kit; but it had to have been much more than $200. Really a beautiful rifle.
In a kit you are basically buying a barrel and that's it. A basic lock is pretty cheap since there is no alignment necessary. You are doing that when you inlet the stock and line things up. The stock is simply duplicated off a four to one or even a one to one duplication machine and all that takes is electricity. So depending upon the overhead the company you are buying from these kits can be relatively inexpensive to outrageous in price. Not too long ago I was still getting under 100 dollar pistol kits (more for a flintlock) and around 250 on the rifle. They are still there, you just have to find them and remember if you are getting a kit in that price range, you are probably buying a foreign made gun. (think metric). There are a whole bunch of cowboy shooters paying top dollar for their foreign made "old guns" that have the look and features of previous US made lever, single, break action firearms. So if a fellow can spring for 1500 bucks for a rifle that he knows will still require an additional 500 bucks to get running right, I don't suppose that a 200 dollar rifle would be that far out of the question and still be in decent shape. Smithy.
Cheap is cheap. A good quality lock is better than 100 bucks by itself and a flinter is about 50 more. A good quality barrel runs around 200-300. Most of the cost of a rifle build is in the stock so it adds up fast. Kit guns unless its a Chambers kit or something similar do not have parts of good quality but they will make fairly decent shooters. Just don't expect to take a 200 dollar kit and make a 1500 dollar gun out of it.
And I would add: "Do not expect a 1500 dollar muzzle loader to shoot any better than a 400 dollar or slightly more Lyman or similar name brand shooter. I've found that after you've reached a certain threshold that any more money piled into the project only makes the wood look nicer as it comes to the edge of the metal and the metal finishing and wood finishing/carving and evgraving included, to look a whole bunch better. But as we all know a shiny, pretty, gun does not necessarily shoot any better than a functional stick of wood with a barrel on it. I proved that with a sawed off (legal lengths of course) shotgun in the skeet fields. No matter what the cost including a $15,000.00 dollar skeet gun (Perrazi I think?) That I was able to shoot several numbers of rounds (meaning 25 shots per round) and was never able to crest 20 hits of 25 targets. But my sawed off $100.00 import gun I logged several 24's right in a row. I never went straight because I'd always talk myself out of it on the last station thinking "Boy if I only hit the last target I'll have gone straight Yepee" and then I'd miss, dang.d I did go 38 targets straight but that didn't count since it was in a string of doubles targets so that only counted as hitting 19 Pairs out of 25 offered. But I felt good and all of that was with what some would certainly consider a garbage gun. It's mainly in the operator. Smithy.
A top quality round bottom rifled Rice barrel and a Chambers lock makes a much better rifle than a economy priced imported barrel and lock. An no, the economy barrels are not as accurate as a top quality American combination.