muzzle brake info.

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by Nathantc, Oct 20, 2011.

  1. Nathantc

    Nathantc New Member

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    this is going on a 24" fluted heavy barrel .223 AR15, i want one i like the looks of, but i also want to see the bullet hit the target at 300 yards. here are the two that i cant make my mind up about.

    the first one is an HK style break, threaded 1/2x28 and u clamp it down to index
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    and this is a BMG style break that i just love the look of and think would complement my rifle nicely. im just torn by which one i want and there both pricey
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  2. JonM

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  3. JonM

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    the only prblem with the aac ones is they have a loud *ping* when you shoot with one.

    i am getting a suppressor but this video is what sold it for me. the 25 sec mark showing the ar15 before and after

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWUk6GJQhNQ&t=25s[/ame]

    i dont have mine yet its still on order but shouldnt be too long. ive used brakes before on M1A and ones designed for effectivness tend to work much better than ones designed to look cool
     
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  4. Nathantc

    Nathantc New Member

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    i have used the brakeout and i have no idea what ping your talking about
     
  5. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    The two you posted are fine if you are going for looks only.

    If you want a compensator that works you should look at the BC 2.0. Battle Comp

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFsDxIDxRto&feature=player_embedded]At the End of the Barrel - YouTube[/ame]

    If you're looking for an effective flash eliminator look no further then the Smith Enterprise Vortex. Smith Enterprise, Inc. 5.56mm Vortex® Flash Suppressor / Eliminators

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqoUMUkro78]Brownells - Flash Hiders - YouTube[/ame]
     
  6. mjkeat

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    There's definately a good reason BC has such a following.
     
  7. Dillinger

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    I have to be honest here. You are looking at getting a 24" heavy barrel for a .223?

    You don't NEED a muzzle break. ;)

    The weight of the weapon is going to do all the dampening you need. Seriously the .223 round doesn't kick THAT much. The muzzle break is only going to throw a ton of dirt and debris around your shooting area, thus infuriating your fellow range shooters, unless you get more of a "tank" style break that only vents to the sides. Then you will just be blowing hot gas and excessive noise in their face. :p

    A weapon in this configuration really doesn't need a break. It's money that could be better spent elsewhere on the platform.

    JD
     
  8. Quentin

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    JD! It's great to see you posting after a break from here! Hmmm, didn't mean the pun... muzzle brake :p
     
  9. Nathantc

    Nathantc New Member

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    The two I posted will far out perform the battle comp, but the back blast and noise will be far greater.

    The battle comp is just a fair compromise of noise flash and brake, IM just looking for all out brake with no bottom ports.

    As for not needing one, well when I shoot for distance I like to see the hole form on paper threw the scope and be able to give a fallow up as fast as I can.

    Try and tell the competition guys that a break is not needed. I want distance and speed. Therefore I need a brake.

    JP has some great ones as well. But I also want some thing that not many other have, that works as needed, yet looks good on my rifle as well.

    This is the barrel its going on (bushmaster varminter 24" fluted) I will be getting it threaded as soon as it arrives
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    I just sold my bull barrel yesterday so this is the rifle that the bushmaster barrel is going in.

    This is the set up IM putting the brake on

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  10. Dillinger

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    I have a previous world record holder in 600 yard and 1,000 yard benchrest competition in the next room. I asked him if he 'needed' a break as you requested and his response to me was:

    "Hell no I don't need a damn muzzle break on my (competition)gun, it shoots better without it and I don't need all that extra noise around my shooting area".

    For the record he has a custom built 6.5 x .284 bolt gun on a completely tuned, bedded, fine tuned, re-tuned and custom tuned action with every possible custom part you can imagine. But no muzzle break. :cool:

    Your gun is beautiful the way it is it doesn't "need" a muzzle break - but personal choice is another matter all together.

    Hey Quentin - I am back for a bit before the next phone conference. Wanted to talk AR's so I thought I would drop by....

    JD
     
  11. Nathantc

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    i was talking more like 3gun, some thing were you have to have hits in a short time frame not groups, for just distance, i would have to agree with him, but i want the best of both worlds, like staying with in a 4" pattern with a 2 shot group in no more than 1 second's time at 300 yards.

    just want to challenge my self
     
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  12. mjkeat

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    Aren't the things listed in bold part of of overall performance?

    You have to keep in mind the reasons the BC was constructed. It's a brake geared toward professionals in need of something that will allow faster follow-up shots yet not disturb they guys to his left and right especially inside dwellings.
     
  13. Gatekeeper

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    I have and love the Battle comp on my AR. It is very effective at reducing muzzle climb, while not producing a huge flash at night or severe back/side blast.
    For a competition only gun, where flash isn't a worry and side blast isn't a concern(except for the RO:p) I'd recommend trying a Mikulek Comp. The ones I've tried seemed to completely eliminate recoil and muzzle rise. Really no back-blast as a shooter when running one in carbine competitions. Much cheaper than other offerings at $39.99 from Brownells.
    Excellent product for competition, but my AR was also built for the possibility of "social work" and I couldn't accept the flash and side-blast it adds, thats why I went with the Battle-comp:)