muslims upset over "Jesus" rifles

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  1. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    Thousands of marines wield rifles with Bible verses inscribed on them. CAIR has already complained about it, saying that it suggests that America is at war with Islam. Some secular groups are also angry about this. Here's some snippets containing the first half of this intriguing news article:


    Muslim groups reacted angrily Wednesday after it emerged that the U.S. military is using combat rifle sights inscribed with coded Biblical references.

    Army officials have said they will investigate whether a Michigan defense contractor violated federal procurement rules by stamping references to Bible verses on the gun sights used by American forces to kill enemy fighters in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations on Wednesday said the continued use of the sights with the religious references would send a negative message to the Muslim world.

    "The use of military equipment with hidden Bible references sends the false message to Muslims worldwide that we are at war with Islam," said CAIR Legal Counsel Nadhira Al-Khalili. "In addition, these sights are a potential recruiting tool for anti-American forces, endanger our troops and alienate our Muslim allies. They should we withdrawn as soon as logistically possible."

    The Marine Corps, another major customer of the telescoping sights that allow troops to pinpoint targets day or night, says service acquisition officials plan to meet with Trijicon to discuss future purchases of the company's gear.

    "If determined to be true, this is clearly inappropriate and we are looking into possible remedies," Commander Darryn James, a Pentagon spokesman, told AFP.

    The references have stoked concerns by a watch dog group about whether the inscriptions break a government rule that bars proselytizing by American troops. But military officials said the citations don't violate the ban and they won't stop using the tens of thousands of telescoping sights that have already been bought.

    The codes were used as "part of our faith and our belief in service to our country," Trijicon said.

    "As long as we have men and women in danger, we will continue to do everything we can to provide them with both state-of-the-art technology and the never-ending support and prayers of a grateful nation," a company spokesman said on condition of anonymity.

    Trijicon said it has been longstanding company practice to put the Scripture citations on the equipment. Tom Munson, Trijicon's director of sales and marketing, said the company has never received any complaints until now.

    "We don't publicize this," Munson said in a recent interview. "It's not something we make a big deal out of. But when asked, we say, 'Yes, it's there.'"

    The inscriptions are subtle and appear in raised lettering at the end of the stock number. Trijicon's rifle sights use tritium, a radioactive form of hydrogen, to create light and help shooters hit what they're aiming for.

    Markings on the Advanced Combat Optical Gunsight, which is standard issue to U.S. special operations forces, include "JN8:12," a reference to John 8:12: "Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, 'I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life,'" according to the King James version of the Bible.

    The Trijicon Reflex sight is stamped with 2COR4:6, a reference to part of the second letter of Paul to the Corinthians: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ," the King James version reads.

    Muslims Angry Over U.S. Military 'Jesus' Rifles - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com
     
  2. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    What a bunch of bull! The more I experience the muslim community the more I wish they would just go away.
     

  3. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    I don't see why they care since Jesus is just a prophet to them anyhow. :confused:
     
  4. NGIB

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    Personally, I think it's fitting that these "Jesus" rifles send them to meet Allah...
     
  5. cpttango30

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    You know by us even reading that gives them more ammo.

    LET ME PUSH THE RED BUTTON. PLEASE let me let me let me........
     
  6. UnderFire

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    ...We are at war w/ Islam Terrorist...I did not know that about Trijicon. Since they support Jesus, I'm going to support them and start buying their products every chance I get!!
     
  7. Yunus

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    I'm trying to grasp this concept. They are OK with projectiles being fired at people with the purpose of causing death to another human being. But they are NOT OK with certain words being written on a piece of metal? :confused:
     
  8. hunter Joe

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  9. IGETEVEN

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    Amen....new mag, reload, Amen....new mag, reload....

    NEXT!
    :cool:

    Jack
     
  10. Benning Boy

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    What I really, REALLY want, is ammo with biblical references on it. If I can get some FMJ with a depiction of the Last Supper, I'm buying a case.
     
  11. CA357

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    "The Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations on Wednesday said the continued use of the sights with the religious references would send a negative message to the Muslim world."[/I]

    You mean killing them is okay as long as it's politically correct to their apologists?
     
  12. Jo da Plumbr

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    I say we dip each bullet in pig fat as a coating before sending them out to the sandbox.

    And make sure to advertise the process on Al-Jezzera. Every US bullet is a terrorists one way ticket to hell.
     
  13. Mr. Bluesky

    Mr. Bluesky New Member

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    THIS. Absolutely this.
     
  14. Fisherking

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    Hum maybe our troups should dip there bullits in bacon grease and let them know that we are sending them to see Allah unclean:confused::D.
    F.K.
     
  15. Fisherking

    Fisherking New Member

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    Gee some one had the same Idea as me. I never looked at the second page.
    :eek: F.K.
     
  16. dunerunner

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    I believe this is an urban legend. I remember it being rumored that General "Black Jack" Pershing had executed by firing squad (bullets dipped in pigs blood) a group on Muslims and buried them with the blood and entrails of swine. He allowed one to live and released him to tell the others and the conflict ended shortly there after.

    From what I found, it is myth.

    However, I think that no matter what is done with the writings on the rifle scopes, Muslim extremists will always believe this conflict was religiously motivated and will forever hold a grudge against the US and it's allies.
     
  17. Franciscomv

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    I'm not a religious man myself, but if a small biblical reference helps US soldiers' morale, I'm all for it. Those men and women serving are the only ones, in my humble opinion, who've got the right to an opinion about what's written on their weapons.
     
  18. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    Buck knives used to put some little passage or quote in with their knives. I wasn't offended, in fact, I admired their convictions.

    I believe at some point they quit doing that, and slowly started falling behind in the market.
     
  19. hunter Joe

    hunter Joe New Member

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    It's a shame that in our country we should be having this discussion. This $hit has to change. By the way, God bless you all.
     
  20. user4

    user4 New Member

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    We have a winner!

    I still don't know why we haven't carpet bombed the Afghanistan hills with bacon.