[Hubgun]

Hello,
this is my first post here, would like some help figuring out what this is, found in the attic, dad says it has been in the family for a long time. Thanks, John

 

[marc29th]

It is a French Charleville musket. 69 Cal. not sure which model year or is it is a repo or original.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleville_musket

 

[303tom]

That`s a Springfield................

 

[M1Anut]

That`s a Springfield................

Think we have a winner!!! Good job 303! .72 cal.

 

[nitestalker]

That is a replica of the Spfld. Musket of 1795 made in India. And not a very good replica

 

[303tom]

Think we have a winner!!! Good job 303! .72 cal.

It`s a 69 caliber smooth bore.................

 

[nitestalker]

That gun is so rare that the National Armory at Spfld. forgot the U.S. stamp on the lock plate?

 

[M1Anut]

It`s a 69 caliber smooth bore.................

Thought it was a .72. Picked up several .72 Minnie's around here metal detecting. Plus a few buttplates and barrel bands. It looked like a springer to me.

 

[jjfuller1]

definetly looks like .72 cal. flintlock. most likely a brown bess. and not really anyway for us to tell if its an original or a replica buts its very desperatly in need of cleaning!.. chances are good its a replica of a brown bess.

 

[c3shooter]

Unsure what you have- the furniture looks more like the French Charleville. The Brown Bess would be marked on the lock- big crown and a GR- for George Rex (all British arms were- and are- the property of the crown)

The true indicators will be markings on the lock and barrel- and that anchor on the buttstock.

 

[nitestalker]

When have you ever seen a musket without a marked lock plate. The butt plate in not inleted. This single throat hammer on a Brown Bess.
Mini Balls were not used in smooth bore flint locks. The Mini was a Civil War era bullet for rifles. These were expanding base conicals mostly .570 Cal.

 

[M1Anut]

When have you ever seen a musket without a marked lock plate. The butt plate in not inleted. This single throat hammer on a Brown Bess.
Mini Balls were not used in smooth bore flint locks. The Mini was a Civil War era bullet for rifles. These were expanding base conicals mostly .570 Cal.

Mostly .57, just depends on where your from. Here, have found lots of removed flash pans off flintlocks that were converted to cap locks. Plus a lot of .69 & .72 Minnie's and round balls. You also find .32, .40, .45, .50 & .54 bullets and balls. They used everything around here. Lol

 

[nitestalker]

Well that is new, depends on where you live? Would you please post a picture of a .72 Caliber Miniball? I can not imagine firing an expanding base conical in a smooth bore flint lock? That could border on being suicidal regardless of where you live. Please a picture and add some of those flash pans?

 

[303tom]

The Brown Bess was a .75 caliber guys...................The OP has a replica of a .69 caliber smooth bore 1795 Springfield flintlock musket.

 

[M1Anut]

I have sold just nearly all my relics, but I found this. The flash pans are long gone to other collectors. Only places I've hunted is SW TN, or NE Ms, that's from Shiloh to Corinth Ms, that's where I'm from. Hunted for years, but divorce will eliminate a mans collection. have a very good friend I sold my things to, he owns Shiloh relics, in Savannah TN. But early in the war, lots off relics found around here, show there were a lot of flints on the battlefield at Shiloh.

 

[nitestalker]

Very nice thx. That is however made for use in a rifle not a smooth gun. But Thx again for posting the .72 Miniball.

 

[M1Anut]

Very nice thx. That is however made for use in a rifle not a smooth gun. But Thx again for posting the .72 Miniball.

Sorry, we call them rifled muskets down here, my bad!!!

 

[nitestalker]

No you are using the right term [Rifled Musket] if that what it is. You threw me off by just saying Musket?

 

[musketshooter]

It is an original French sea service musket. It IS NOT a Springfield. They were never brass mounted.

 

[303tom]

It is an original French sea service musket. It IS NOT a Springfield. They were never brass mounted.

And you are high to, the bayonet locking lug is on the bottom of the barrel, it is a Springfield................