Muskegon Heights man carries rifle to walk daughter to bus

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  1. Bigcountry02

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    I wouldn't, draws too much attention, causes too much ruckus. I'm glad it's legal, and the police aren't harassing him every day, but I probably would just go with a good CCW pistol or two.
    Add - a 22lr rifle with scope, carried? Trade it for a handgun, Maynard.
     

  3. kbd512

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    I found it particularly instructive that the woman who had a problem with it was a convicted felon. Now we know who has a real problem with open carry. That would be convicted felons who can no longer easily prey on people who are not criminals.

    How can our felons safety commit more crimes with so many armed people ready to stop them? Shouldn't we be working on ways to allow them to continue to prey upon the good people of our society in relative safety by disarming all the people who don't commit felonies? Oh that's right, our President and his ilk are hard at work on that particular issue.

    Although I would opt to carry a handgun because it's more convenient, as the police and prosecutors have stated, he hasn't broken any laws. Good for him.
     
  4. Franklin1995

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    I might be wrong, but I have a feeling that he doesn't have much money. Handguns are expensive when you have to live paycheck to paycheck already.
     
  5. WebleyFosbery38

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    My suggestion is to move out of Muskegon Heights immediately. If thats not possible it may be better to home school till he can. My recollection of just about every place called a "Heights" is its a government sponsored poverty district, most need to be leveled for the good of the surrounding districts. and folks trying to survive in them. I cant imagine living day in and out with a fear that might cause me to need to carry a piece much less a longarm to the bus-stop every day, thats gotta suck bad.

    It may sound crazy to do this but he's not going into starphucks or Sh!tpolte, he's just trying to ensure his daughters safe passage to and from her mandatory attendance to a public education. Hell, most inner-city schools have armed guards at the door, some even have them on the busses, once your kid leaves the front door of your home, they are subject to all the dangers the schools are geared up to mitigate without the Guards, metal detectors and dogs.

    Packing poor people into regional warehouses and telling them to play nice doesnt work. All you see every day is desperation and failure. The only way to rise above is either take more from others or leave it behind. It sounds to me like this guy is trying to do the right thing, make sure his daughter gets an education. I wont judge his sanity or the effect it has on others, I have my own reasons for staying in NY even after my own governor told me to leave and has successfully suspended some of my rights as an American (Temporarily to be sure, thats a fact, its not if its when).

    That Dinks on thin ice in my eyes, "LaMay is not breaking any laws" means he is following the law so if the DA "doesn't advocate it" means he's against following the law. That sounds ridiculous to me somehow, WTF, then the felon chimes in...!!!! The fact he had to prove he wasnt breaking it via confiscation, running his record and the weapon serial numbers is another in your face unconstitutional practice and procedure. I think his response was gracious and understated, I probably wouldnt have been so nice myself.
     
  6. partdeux

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    I've asked the question on a MI OC forum and have not received a good answer yet on the legality of carrying a rifle. My layman understanding of the law, one is allowed to OC a pistol on school grounds with a conceal pistol license. Maybe he doesn't set foot on the property, but then there's the whole 1,000' federal rule too.
     
  7. AIKIJUTSU

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    He is protecting his daughter from being abducted or raped, but it may be better for him to CC a pistol.
    1. He is making himself a target and therefore his daughter a target for a sneak assassination by local felons.
    2. He is subjecting his daughter to being rejected and scorned by her schoolmates as a result of being a spectacle.

    A side thought: The way the convicted criminal lady raised hell about him carrying, shows why some grabbers are so loudly screaming to try to get everybody disarmed. Many of them are people who are forbidden by law from owning/carrying a gun. And they figure "If I can't have a gun, I don't want anybody having a gun".
     
  8. indy36

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    Look at this dude. You don't get why another parent might take exception to him standing there with a bolt action deer rifle around their kids? Buy a pistol already. If you can't then sling that rifle over your shoulder.

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  9. Balota

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    Looks to me like he's doing what he can and what he feels is necessary. He may not have a handgun. Or he may be using the rifle as an open deterrent. Either way (or any other reason) it's his choice.

    The only problem I see is the cops confiscating his gun for a number of DAYS!!! Are you freaking kidding me? They can't run the serial number through their system right there from the squad car?
     
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    They're probably using some procedure that was established in the 1970's and have not changed it to use the available resources now.
     
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    Depends on how the long gun is carried. Things have come a long way, where slings can be configured for keeping the gun close to the chest, yet still allowing a quick mount. Clearing clothing, drawing and aiming would be a pretty close contest.

    I'm not a big proponent of his choice of rifle and rig, but I don't know what options he has. A scoped deer rifle wouldn't be my first choice.
     
  14. Bigcountry02

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    I agree, he probably does not have the moneys to purchase a handgun and to move would cost even more money.
     
  15. Franklin1995

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    Do you have any proof that OC of a rifle or a handgun increases your risk of being assassinated on the streets? OC is normally seen as a deterrent, not something that attracts criminals.

    Also, to everyone saying that he shouldn't be carrying it because it's a deer rifle, how many of you use a .22 for deer? Because that's what he is carrying
     
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  16. rjd3282

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    Bird shot? Really? Do us all a favor and think about things you write before you hit the submit button.
     
  17. manta

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    Why assume that he can't afford a handgun, I would think that a handgun would be more suitable. Does it not concern people that in modern day America people feel the need to carry a rifle to take their daughter to school. Obviously not. Is it normal practice to give American children an armed escort to school. The only problem with that is as far as I can see the shootings take place in the schools.
     
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    So he's defending himself with a bolt action .22? Take back what you said about a shotgun loaded with 8 shot. I'd take that over the .22 bolt action rifle any day.


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  19. Shoobee

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    Anyone carrying a rifle (or carbine, more accurately) is worried about running into a gang.

    That's the only reason I would carry a "rifle." And then anyone else moving in too close is going to get aimed at, then probably shot quickly. Otherwise it would be easy to take the rifle away.

    Normally a pistol would be more appropriate.
     
  20. Shoobee

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    A knife is going to defeat any rifle in any carrying mode unless the rifleman shoots the knife fighter before they get within 21 feet / 7 yards.

    With a pistol or revolver you at least have the ability to shoot from the hip, even with a knife stuck in your chest already.