Yeah so i was just wondering what where the most common and handy upgrades for a 16" M4 style AR 15 with flat top and collapsible stock.
i was thinking about free float vented tubeWhat kind of upgrades are you looking to do? At 16", you don't really have a long range, match style platform. But, you could do a few things to make it a bit better for close quarter action.
Free floated front hand guard, if you just have the plastic clamshell that so many come with.
Fold down battle sights like the kind from Yankee Hill Machine or Troy. I would go with the YHM as they are way cheaper. That allows you to use your optics, but if something happens, pull the glass/heads up and switch to analog old school in about 20 seconds.
A trigger job is always a good idea, if you have the stock style trigger. You can get a drop in replacement, or you can tune the one you have already got in about 30 minutes. I sent several people on here an on line write up on how to do it, I haven't heard any reports back from anyone. *shaking fist*
Give me an idea of what direction you would like to go with the gun and I will see if I can't give you some ideas...
I recently got This free floated fore end from Yankee Hill. There are close up pictures of it in the projects section under my current build called Gungnir. This gives you a top rail for all sorts of sights, regardless of your choosing, and then it gives the ( 3 ) additional 4" rails right at the front in case you want to add a light or something. I am really happy with it. It's very well made and very durable.
As for flip up sights:
From This page I like the:
Forearm Mounted Front Flip Sight
A1 Style Flip Rear Sight
Both are really good sights, very durable and work extremely well in case of battery failure or other need.
I just bought a RRA 2 Stage Trigger for this project and it is very nice. Very little creep up to a very positive break and then almost no over travel. I think it will shoot very well.
That being said, JARD makes a drop in trigger that I have on my 17" gun, pictures in my gallery, and it works fine as well.
Your trigger is going to be somewhat personal, so you might want to try a couple before you buy. I work part-time in a shop, so I get to play with everything.
You can fine tune a GI Trigger for a nice clean break. You can also replace the springs and get a good trigger, not great, but definitely better than stock.
I have a couple of EoTechs and I love them. They are very durable and they aren't too terribly hard on batteries. That said, they aren't cheap either.
Let me know what you think of those products. There are certainly others out there, but those are some of the ones that I like currently...
thanks for the tips+1000 Ranger.
An enhanced extractor spring from Specialized Armament Warehouse (sawlesales.com). $4.
Enhanced magazine springs from Specialized Armament. $4
"H" buffer for carbine (collapsible) butt stock.
Good red dot sight, C-more, Acog etc.
Non slip (recoil) pad for butt stock. A bit more length and better control.
Boonie Packer Redi Mag.
They make a carbine model as well, it's like $20 cheaper as well. It's the same configuration, but it's shorter for your barrel. I should have clarified that. The fore end I showed you is top shelf though. I really like it. It feels like a great piece of kit...*drools*
i really like that free float forearm
but mines gonna be a 16" so shouldn't i get the carbine?
with that said what flip up front sight would fit?
looks like the ones yankee hill would get in the way of the tube...
The upgrade springs resolve some design deficiencies that the Mil-Spec has not kept up with. Mag springs are an (IMHO) essential item as the Mil mag only costs $2.00. How good a spring are you going to get in a $2.00 magazine. The extractor spring will prevent extraction issues that may arise.thanks for the tips
are all these absolutely necesarry though?
Not taking anything away from what you posted...but isn't this:My personal take on essential upgrades are these:
Good stock. Magpul CTR is a nice addition and can be put right on the stock you have just make sure you know wether it's Mil spec or a commercial. I also run a RRA 9mm buffer in both of my rifles.
Good grip. The grip adds to the feel and trigger finger postion. You want the stock firm against your shoulder, a good grip makes it that much easier to do this. My favorite is the Magpul MIAD. I also have a G27 on my stag that is very comfortable.
Good BUIS. Don't skimp on this. I like a folding rear sight sinse I run a red dot on my rifles. However, I like being able to flip up the rear and use the irons as well.
Good optic. I admittedly went cheap on this. I first used a Bushnell red dot that was okay, but I replaced it with a SPOT unit. I really like the SPOT, so much so that I boght another one for the other rifle. Avoid the Aimpoint knock offs. If you were going to spend the cash, this would be the best place to do it. If possible, see if anyone local to you would let you shoot with thier Eotech and/or a Aimpoint. Personally I do not like the Eotech.
Good amount of Mags and Mag parts. All of my USGI 30rd mags have been rebuilt with better springs, followers, and in my case range plates or Mag-pulls.
Good ammo. Sight in with good ammo. I plink with the Monarch and wolf. I sight in and keep my "defence mags" filled with Hornady or Black hills.
Hand gaurds are great, both my middy and carbine have them. They do add weight though. I only use a verticle grip on both and even then I remove them at the range from time to time. To me those were not necessary items. Hind sight I should have waited and went full float.
Read a torture test of the SPOT and liked how it held up. I didn't pay full price for either of the two I bought and so far I am very pleased with the performance offered. Only downside is they are 3MOA, but that really hasn't been a negative thus far.Not taking anything away from what you posted...but isn't this:
An "Aimpoint knock-off"? Admittedly...it's probably one of the better ones, like the Hakko's (from Japan) were...but still a "copy" of the Aimpoint. That being said, it does work well, and a good alternative to the price of an Aimpoint.
You just put it together - you should know what parts move and what parts don't.so i finished my AR and now i'm thinking about upgrades
the first thing i'm gonna upgrade is probably the trigger
is a two-stage trigger worth it?
and does anyone know or have detailed instructions on how to clean an AR-15?