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Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by mastershake, Apr 18, 2007.
Which do you prefer and why?
I prefer the Remington 870, or Winchester 1300 over other shotguns on the market. They just fit me better, and I can handle them faster.
870 is the standard which all current pump action SG are measured. Used extensively by police depts. because of dependability and durability.
Doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the Mossy.
As a preacher, I have been involved with Chaplaincy in police departments in 4, in Florida and Louisiana while pastoring there. Each department that I was involved with in those states, used the Mossy 500 eight shot "riot gun". I don't know of a single time when they let them down and less costy which is good for a chief who is trying to present the budget to the commission in a smaller department.
I guess you could use Remmy or Winny, but you could have bought 3 Mossy guns whereas only 2 of the other guns.
Makes a lot of sense for me, as a taxpayer as well. Mossberg is a GOOD gun, don't sell it short. I've owned Rems (an 870 and a model 58) and my dad had a Browning. Good guns, but pricey! BTW, if you have work done to them by a gunsmith, you'll also find the costs of parts are more expensive as well. I've owned my Mossy 500 for over 25 years and it has never failed me. In fact, I've never had to have it repaired, ever! Just keep it cleaned and lubed, it will do like the Energizer bunny!!
I really think this is one of those "6 of one, a half-dozen of the other" type things. Each mech has its strong points and its weaknesses.
Agreed, but cost is definitely a PLUS for most people I know. Nothing fancy about Mossberg, but dependable! You will pay about 50% more for the name "Remington" and "Winchester" or about 200% more for Browning and 300% for Beretta. Nothing wrong with spending if you want, but I don't think you necessarily have to have those to have a "better" gun.
Here is my testimonial: my Dad got a Mossberg 12 gauge as a door prize at a Christmas party in 1963. He used that gun for 20 years. Sometime around 1980, we had a neighbor who got into some financial trouble and needed some money. He came over to our house and was telling my Dad that he had a Browning 12 gauge and was going to a pawn shop to hock it. He said that he had paid for right at $400 for this gun about a year before. He said that he was hoping to get $150 on hock for this gun. My Dad told him to bring it over and let him look at it. He got it and my Dad told him that he would loan him $150 for 6 months (instead of 90 days at a pawn shop) and that he wouldn't charge him any interest on it since the guy had been such a good neighbor. He said that after 6 months, Dad would take it that the guy didn't want the gun. The guy agreed and about a month later, he moved out of our area and Dad never heard from him again. So he got this beautiful Browning Shotgun and used it . . . . for 2 seasons. He never liked the feel of this gun and had to have the gun worked on because the safety broke! He took it to the gunsmith we used and it cost "an arm and a leg" to have that gun fixed. And it took 6 weeks for him to get the part ordered and in! I want to say it was about $75 to replace the safety!
My Dad went back to using his Mossberg and, about 2 years later, he sold the Browning for about $250. He wasn't out any money, but he loved that Mossberg. He was broken into in 1983 and all of his guns were stolen, including the Mossberg. Within a few weeks of getting the insurance money, my Dad bought his first Mossberg 500 which he used until he died in 2002. It is in my gun case along with my 25 year old Mossy at my house today. I plan on keeping both until I die!
I prefer Mossberg,
It is what the Cops use ..
Although Remington is good to! I am not disn them
I prefer the heft of the Remington, but I wouldn't feel out of place with a Mossberg.
i own a rem 870, a mossy 500, an ithaca 12 ga., and several autos.
the mossy gets the least amount of work, but i will not part with it.
Mossberg or Remington
RON L here = SERESURPLUS
While I was serving in the US Navy, we had both the Rem 870 as well as the MOSSBERG 500, I prefered the REMINGTON 870, as It held up to more abuse, was easier to get parts for and with the way the GOV bouth them, it was not a lot different in cost!
All that Reversed when we got in a set of Replacement Mossberg 590, with Ghost Rings and Speedfeed stocks! Now, what one did I perfer? BOTH?? LOL It's a matter of what Woman is Prettier the Blond or the Brunette, in all cases, get one of each if ya can?? LOL Thier is no correct anwser to the question!
I just bought a Remington 870 and love it. held the mossy at a few different stores and it just felt cheap and not as tight as the 870. For a few extra bones i went with the 870 and feel that i made the right choice.
"...Sales of the 870 have been steady. They reached 2 million guns by 1973 (ten times the number of Model 31 shotguns it replaced). By 1996, spurred by the basic "Express" model, sales topped seven million guns. The 870 holds the record for best-selling pump gun in U.S. history." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_870
I've got an 870 that I've had for about 12 years now. It's worked perfectly for me with no problems since I bought it. I'll probably never buy two guns, a Mossberg or a Savage. I know there are people that swear by them, but my grandpa has been a gunsmith for 40 years and if he won't buy them neither will I.
I have had both and for a hunting gun eather would last a life time of hard rabbit hunting. The Mossy is alittle lite so it points a hair faster, but the Rem. is better made and would hold up better if you were going to shoot trap 5 days a week. I lost my Mossy in a fire and don`t have any now, but I do have 3 870`s. But my real pick of pump guns is the Mod. 12 Win., I have 12 of them.
I like the 870 Wingmaster. It was my first NEW gun. I had a friend growing up that we hunted together and he had a Mossberg. I just never liked the feel of his gun, not saying it wasn't a good gun, watched it smoke many a Wood Duck and Greenhead. I do have to say that I don't think the 870 Express is quite the quality as the Wingmaster, but I have two 20 ga 870 Express youth models for my boys. In the end it really dosen't matter what we like, it's what fits and feels good to YOU.
I saw a Mossberg 590 at 29 Palms one day and I fell in love, so on vacation last year I bought one and it serves me very well. Ive shot both the M1014 and the 590A1 and I like the 590 much more.
It just about beats or equals remington on every level, especially on the price!
My first shotgun was a Mossberg 500 w/28" vented rib barrel and modified choke. I bought it when I started duck hunting in the early 80's, this was before screw-in chokes. It worked OK, but felt a bit cheesy. I hated the forend rattle and the open style shell lifter that allowed swamp debris to get into the bottom of the action. The only reason I bought it was because it was cheap, so I guess you get what you pay for. I don't know how, but I managed to crack the buttstock where it meets the receiver. After 2 seasons I got rid of it. I went looking for a replacement and checked with a local gun shop that mostly dealt in military surplus arms. I bought my IBM manufactured M1 Carbine from him on an earlier visit. I asked if he had any shotguns and he pulled out a NIB Remington MP870. I had never heard of this model, but he said it wasn't a cataloged item, it was an overrun from a military contract. It had a steel receiver with an 18" ribless smoothbore barrel and a Zytel stock with a parkerized finish. As is, it wasn't exactly a duck gun, but sporter barrels with screw-in chokes were becoming popular so I went that route. The Zytel stock wasn't pretty but it proved to hold up well to the abuses of the swamp over the next 20 years, and I really beat the snot out of it, but like a timex "it takes a licking and keeps on ticking".
This is not to say that I hate Mossbergs, I actually found myself acquiring another one, but that was a deal too good to turn down. Anyone remember the company Service Merchandise? When they went out of business, they marked down all their guns 50% off. I got the last one they had for $110. I still have that one, but I hardly ever use it. I mostly use it as a loaner, and I also take it with me as a spare on my hunting trips just in case my 870 breaks. It hasn't happened yet, but it's always better to be prepared when you're far from home, because a broken gun can really ruin a hunting trip...........
I have sold equal amount of both the mossberg 500 and the remington 870, I have sent more 870's back for repair then i have the mossbergs
Amen, I hear that from so many gun stores.
I own a 1969 vintage 870 Wingmaster in 20 ga. that was my grandpa's and I bought my boy a Mossberg 500 combo with the 26" vent rib and fully rifled deer barrel. The Remington is definately higher quality, with it's walnut stock and rich blued steel receiver and barrel. But it would cost double what the Mossberg would cost. The main thing I like about the Mossberg is the safety. For teaching safety to my boy, it is nice to be able to see the tang safety right out in the open compared to the cross bolt safety of the Remington. The rifled barrel for the Remington cost 2/3 of what the whole combo Mossberg cost. If I had to buy one today for me, I would still lean Remington, they just feel better in my hands.
Years ago I had an 870 that I bought brand new, I think about 1 out of 10 shells would jam. It wouldn't eject the spent shell and would try to load a new one ontop of it. My neighbors kid has an 870 that for some reason every once in awile will become borderline impossible to pump at all. My grandpa got an 870 for christmas one year and by fall that gun had more rust on it than one I would considered to be neglected. He alwas kept it oiled and stored in the house. That being said I know alot of people that love there 870's. My dad has a 500 that he has had for 15+ years. Now he's not really into shooting or hunting so I would consider his neglected but it still looks good and rust free and works great other than rattling like an angry snake when you walk with it. Me I like my winchester 1300. I'v had if for almost ten years now I think and have never once had a problem with it. My brother inlaw has had his 1300 for two years now and his has also been problem free.