Mosin trigger

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by thdrduck, Sep 13, 2012.

  1. thdrduck

    thdrduck New Member

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    Just finished installing a new trigger on the Mosin. Already have a scope on it but really hated the trigger creep and the safety, more so after the scope was mounted. The new trigger cost more then I paid for the gun but after 3 shots I am impressed. It's like shooting a completely different firearm and has a trigger block safety, simple on off. No trigger creep, crisp clean release, very nice. Now need to get some "good" amo and see what it can do.
     
  2. TDS92A

    TDS92A New Member Supporter

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    What year was your Mosin made?

    I have two and have had no problems with trigger creep or safety issues.

    Just curious.

     

  3. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I have more than a handful of Mosins. The trigger quality range from lousy to outstanding. Pre-WWII 91/30s generally have better triggers, but not always. The Finn made guns have triggers comparable to a good modern hunting rifle. The Chinese and Polish triggers are generally very good. Most of my, and most other's, Mosin-Nagants have been refurbished at least once, so you can't estimate the quality of the trigger by the date of mfg. Your 1943Izhevsk 91/30 may have a trigger from a 1898 M-91. You just have to try it.

    I enjoy shooting the guns as the original owners would have shot them, so I have yet to replace or modify a trigger.

    As far as the safety; I have never seen a good Mosin safety, they work perfectly, but they were not well designed for actual use.
     
  4. TDS92A

    TDS92A New Member Supporter

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    Mine were made in 1944 and 1942 (in the order of purchase) and I have never used the safeties. I always load them and then shoot. Thanks for the tips though!


     
  5. thdrduck

    thdrduck New Member

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    Mine is a 1944 and had a crappy trigger. I use the gun for deer hunting so not using a safety is not an option. The original safety is functional as far as providing a "safe" condition, but not at all easy to use under the best of conditions. Add a scope and a pair of gloves to the equation and it's almost impossible. I will still use it while walking from the house to my stand but after that I'll use the new safety by itself.
     
  6. TDS92A

    TDS92A New Member Supporter

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    As I am not a hunter I cannot sympathize with this, but it is good info to know should I need to go hunting. the most dangerous things that I have shot at are paper targets and cardboard silhouettes.:eek:


     
  7. CA357

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    Did you install a Huber Concepts trigger? I put one in my 1917 Eddystone and it was amazing.
     
  8. thdrduck

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    I installed a Timney. It's 1.5 to 4 lb adjustable with a safety. Very well put together but did take some work to install. I just looked at the Huber... the Timney is a unit, not just the trigger itself and includes a safety but as I can see by looking at the Huber was much more difficult to install, lots of wood to remove, not a drop in part by any means but about the same price.
     
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  9. CA357

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    The Huber was pretty easy, but getting it to break correctly took a bit of work. However, when it was done it was amazing.
     
  10. dteed4094

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    I also put a timney on one of my Mosins, I can no longer blame the group size on the terrible trigger it had. I also put on a non gunsmith scope and mount. athe groups are still about 5 moa. I'm hoping the ammo is the culprit now or I spent money unnecessarily to accurize this old war stick. Judging by what I've read on this and several other forums, you cant really expect much better with the old Russian light ball ammo. It does however seem to tighten up as the barrel gets hotter. Still fun to shoot and I really don't notice the heavy recoil everyone talks about. Be sure to let us know how yours shoots with modern ammo.
     
  11. cuate

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    I installed a Huber trigger and adjusted out the slack and shimmed slightly under the original sear spring and now have a sweet trigger pull. And the method I use for safely carrying my Mosin is to only load four rounds in the magazine, hold them down when moving the bolt forward to close the bolt on an empty chamber. When ready to shoot, open the bolt, chamber a round and shoot.

    And I have read that the Mosin is more accurate like on a firing range with the bayonet attached as the bayonet nulls out some of the barrel
    harmonics when firing but I neither fire on ranges not with the bayonet attached, nor have I modified my rifle in any manner than the trigger and sear shimming. It isn't pretty but I love this rifle !
     
  12. chuckusaret

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    I installed the spring and washer on one 91/30 and a Timmy trigger on one of my other Mosin's. The poor accuracy was not a trigger problem. LOL.
     
  13. dteed4094

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    Although The washer or shim fix is widely used, it is a dangerous adaptation unless properly tested for bump fire. Aside from banging the butt on the floor you need to chamber a spent casing and pry up the rear end of the bolt firmly to move it as far as you can to see if the sear will disengage. There is considerable slop in the back part of the bolt in some Mosins. I have seen some fire without the modiication.
     
  14. Old_Crow

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    I have a 1930 hex receiver model. There is no Mosin Nagant listed that is like mine. It has a dragoon receiver, bolt and M30/91 sights. The trigger is fair and it cycles as well as a modern rifle. It shoots very well with winchester 180gr. It's adequate with 203gr SP ammo.
     
  15. thdrduck

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    What is a Nagant dragoon receiver and bolt?
     
  16. thdrduck

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    Very pleased! Picked up a box of Winchester 180 gr SP and a box of Lellier & Bellot 180 gr SP today and put her on the bench. I have never shot it with "good" amo before. She likes the Winchester just a bit better, 3 shot group 1.5 inches. L&B 3 shot group 1.75 inches. Both brands had 2 holes touching. Sighted in with Brown Bear so was shooting about 3.5 inches high (best group with Brown Bear was just under 8 inches). Dropped it 6 clicks, took 3 more of each, put 3 in the center ring and 3 just outside. Total group size out of 6 mixed shots was an honest 1 7/8 and that was the L&B rounds. The Winchester kept 1.5 so this was no accident or stroke of luck. Turns out the trigger was money well spent. White tail beware!