mosin nagant

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by ernieg, May 16, 2008.

  1. ernieg

    ernieg New Member

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    just picked myself up a mosin nagant for 85 dollars from big5 im pretty stoked and i want to take it out but i cant find 7.62.54r ammo around where i live, big5 sells winchester ammo 20$ for a box of 20 which seems kinda steep in my opinion so can anyone suggest any places i might be able to find ammo for cheaper?? thanks in advance to anyone who can help out :)
     
  2. ScottG

    ScottG New Member

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    WalMart carries it. Forget Big 5 for ammo, they're always overpriced.
     

  3. yodar

    yodar New Member

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    other sources of surplus ammo

    aimsurplus.com

    http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/copy_of_7_62x54R.html

    I recommend Privi Partisan if you plan to reload. a really fine cartridge from Privi
     
  4. fapprez

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    I don't know where you are located, but I buy mine here in FL from Knights Shooting Sports for about $8 for 20 rounds.
     
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  5. c3shooter

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    Southern Ohio Gun seems to be out of a lot of ammo right now, check Midway, Aim Point, and auctionarms.com and gunbroker.com last year I bought a lifetime supply of Bulgarian milsurp for $100. You may see it listed as 7.62 Russian- same as 7.62x54R.
     
  6. EddiePrice

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    Mosin-Nagant

    Hey, I'm just getting started, and I was thinking about purchasing a Mosin-Nagant. You can't argue with the price, but I've heard that the quality varies widely on these things. Is there some sort of guide that lets me know what to look out for when purchasing a rifle like this?

    I read a article saying that these are pretty good weapons. Am I on the right track with this weapon as a newbie, or should I look into something else. I'd like something inexpensive that's at least reasonable quality.

    Thanks for the help.
     
  7. c3shooter

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    Eddie, just my opinion- they are crude, ugly, heavy, ungainly, awkward- and will still work after you run over the thing with a tank, bury it under a collapsing building, and slather it with mud, blood, or beer! No, the finish and operation is not that of a good 03 Springfield or Mauser 98- but better than you would expect for the price. I have a 91/30, an M38, and an M-44. Key is going to be matching numbers, and condition of bore (especially the last inch at the muzzle) The Commies had batches of these in storage- they have been run back thru the arsenals for refurb, and dumped on the market to pump cash into their economy. I paid well under $100 for each- new wood, reblued, decent bores, and all the accessories. For $68, don't expect a MOA shooter. But like dating fat girls, they can be fun. :D surplusrifle.com has some good info on these, and there are M-N forums around.
     
  8. EddiePrice

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    Thanks for the info c3shooter. I might just have to get one. I've seen some videos of these things in action, and they do look like fun. I'm going to go do some research. Thanks again.
     
  9. shoez

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    I've got a 91/30 and an M44 as well, paid $90 for the 91/30, $48 for the M44 back in 2001. Just bought some surplus ammo in a sealed 300 round can for $54 at the last gun show. Not target rifles, but I would not want to get within 1000 yards of it either!! I just feel that having a few full power battle rifles that are fool proof and brutally tough and a good supply of ammo around to be comforting, you know a SHTF kind of thing.
     
  10. ernieg

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    thanks for the replies about the ammo guys ill look into it a little more and also what do you guys think about the synthetic ATI stock it looks pretty cool and it would probably cut some of the weight off the gun? am i stupid for even considering it?
     
  11. c3shooter

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    Less weight + all else being equal= more recoil. And the 7.62 Russian in a carbine may not be a 600 Nitro Express, but it DOES speak with some authority, especially shooting from the bench! OW!
     
  12. jlburdge

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    cheaperthandirt.com gunshows
     
  13. Laufer

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    I sold my 91/30 to a guy for $100 cash, because I prefer carbines.
    My 44 kicks less than the 91/30, maybe due to being much shorter and less powder burns inside the barrel.

    But the 44 is so much handier and simple to move through the house and carry under tree limbs.

    Meet my fun family: used Mini 14 & 30, (prev. unfired) Norinco SKS, MN 44 and ancient Savage .22.
    Just a middle-aged, very, very late-bloomer with fun guns for plinking.
    100-yard accuracy is not important to me-not at all. My floating targets are no more than 60 feet away. I could not imagine spending lots of ammo money on an AR-15 with a scope, expensive stuff, or an M-14/M-1A1 etc... just to impress other people at the range (have never hunted). I'm a simple "conscripted, ill-trained Russian peasant", who prefers to shoot cheaper Wolf ammo etc in simple guns with iron sights, thereby allowing more frequent plinking.
     
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  14. pioneer461

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    There are many places you can get some ammo on the Internet, J&G Sales, Ammo Man, Cheaper Than Dirt, etc. But if you want to get your hands on some immediately for that instant gratification thing, you may have to be prepared to spend a few more bux for it. Or, see if there are any gun-shows coming up in your area. Someone usually has a bunch of less expensive imported ammo.

    Mine is an M-44, and I enjoy shooting it. With the Mosin, if you miss them with the bullet, you will at least take them out with the muzzle blast. :eek:
     
  15. ScottG

    ScottG New Member

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    Nothing wrong with that!
     
  16. stetson

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    I don't think so.I do it in a heart beat for a finnish rifle.I'd still do it for a regular mosin .It really changes the look once you get the upgrade done.
    I don't remember what cheaper than dirt selling the rifle stocks for but it
    was under $80.
     
  17. Laufer

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    Four nights ago I called "Sportsmansguide" to order another 300-rd. can of really cheap Bulgarian while my wife was asleep.

    I've followed about seven ammo bulk suppliers each week since December, for this x54r, x39 and .223.

    Sportsmansguide has discontinued the 300 round cans, but they list the tiny paper packs of ten rounds for about the same price/round.
    Let's hope that this is not a trend.
    The lady staffer on the phone was not given the reason for this unexpected change.
    There may be other abrupt changes in ammo marketing with no warning at all.

    Now have my second MN 44. Rarely find anybody to plink with so it can be a nice spare. Be aware that laminated 44s are apparently now much harder to find in retail stores-one guy in a small gun shop told me that he can not get anymore from either "J&G" or "AIM". Two Gander Mts. which I visited last weekend appeared to have none (on display). They are in Jackson, TN and Evansville, IN (this had about three in a back room-but after seeing the new high price, did not bother to see).
    One of two small gun stores in Clarksville TN which are both near Ft. Campbell had only one, which I bought.
    Somebody at the "Gunandgame" website stated that the Russians might be holding back on the laminated 44s.

    ScottG: You are an astute gentleman and such a diplomatic style will take you far in life.
     
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  18. yetgenp

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    m-n m44

    I have one of these. bought it from the guy who carried it out of Virt Nam. I think mine is a refurb from someplace as i CAN'T MATCH THE ARSENAL MARKS TO THE RUSIAN M44. THIS WEAPON DOES HAVE THE OLE HAMMER 'N CYCLE IN A WREATH ON ITAND A CLEAR SERIAL NUMBER ON BREECH AND A SERIAL ON THE BOLT. SO BOTTOM LINE IS - DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM BUT MATCHED EXACTLY TO THE PICS OF THE M44. MINE HAS THE LAMNINATED STOCK. PAID75.00 FOR THE WEAPON.

    IN cOLLEGE sTATION, tEXAS, gANDER mOUNTAIN HAS HAD 7.62 AMMO FOR SALE.
     
  19. 7.62 Man

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  20. AcidFlashGordon

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    Thanks for that link! Confirmed that my 2 Mosin-Nagants are Soviet-made, one Tula and one Izhevsk.