mosin nagant

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by ron12301, Aug 22, 2010.

  1. ron12301

    ron12301 New Member

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    Hello again, I have been reading about the mosin nagant rifles. Can someone enlighten me on mosin ? I am wondering what are the best ones (country of origin, or does it matter?), what to look for? what to expect, condition etc.? are they even worth the $90 a local store wants for a m91 ? Can they be improved ? Just looking for something to horse around with. any info you can give me will be appreciated.
     
  2. M14sRock

    M14sRock Active Member

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    Solid, accurate, crude. Gotta have at least one MM.
     

  3. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    Incredible rifle when you consider the cost. I bought one at Cabelas for $100. I went to the range and was able to hit a steel plate at 500 yards. I shot at the plate four times. I hit it twice. Other people stopped shooting and walked over to talk to me. When they found out it was only $100 they were shocked.
     
  4. GrumpyPine

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    I suggest taking a look at some of the sites out there that have a wealth of information. This is a good one: 7.62x54r.net

    The basic gist is that there are two "countries" that you can find rifles from - Russia and Finland. The Finnish mosin nagants are actually Russian rifles that have been arsenal re-worked to higher standards, so they are more accurate and thus more expensive.

    You will find two receiver types, round and hexagonal - some price Hex receivers higher than round (they were usually produced earlier than the round receivers). This is because the rifles produced during wartime (round receiver) may have been rushed through production, resulting in lower quality.

    Ammunition is cheap- $80 to $100 for 440 rounds of corrosive surplus ammunition.

    You could take the rifle and try to do all sorts of things to it to "improve" it, but like those that posted above said it kind of is what it is. It's plenty accurate for most shooters, it can take a huge beating and you won't care, and it is fun to have something so cheap that goes big boom.
     
  5. NitroxAZ

    NitroxAZ New Member

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    Damn fine rifle for the $$
     
  6. ron12301

    ron12301 New Member

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    So, the one I saw for $90 is in all probability a "Russian" version. Should I be at all concerned about the barrel being shot out ?
     
  7. GrumpyPine

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    It is unlikely that the barrel has been shot out. Certainly take a look at it in the store with a borelight (or use a small flashlight), but it will likely be full of crud or cosmoline. Some of the rifles have been counter-bored, which will look like a section at the muzzle has been "drilled out". All that means is that it at one point had been damaged to the point of affecting accuracy, and somebody made the call to remove some material and give it a new crown so that it was accurate again.
     
  8. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I would buy that, no second thought needed. Only problem is they multiply quickly.
    The 91 is over 100 years old and shoots fantastic.
     

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  9. ron12301

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    Thanks folks for the good info, pics, and advice. I am going to check out the link. sounds like I can have a lot of fun with this rifle and not worry about it taking a beating and getting scratched etc. I need something like this... at least that is what I'll tell my wife.
     
  10. gregs887

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    Buy it, you will not be disappointed. $90 is a steal these days. I got mine a few years ago for about $70, but they are hard to find anywhere near me cheaper than $150 now. I would like to add an M44 when the prices come down...
     
  11. ron12301

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    I 'm going down to the sporting goods store tomorrow and if I can find one that looks like the pics that shihan posted I think I will buy it. you guys talked me into it ! I not exactly a hard sell when it comes to firearms, just love 'em. thanks again for the info.
     
  12. gatopardo

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    Mosin nagants rock

    First off when you star shooting, you'll get everyone's attention such is the boom! out of the 7.62x 54r.

    As for accuracy 51 or so inches should mean something. A long barrel and tight groups go together. Furthermore on a standing position at 50 yards good groups are possible, holding my elbows close to the body gives good control over target acquisition.
    About the condition, never heard anyone complaint about a shot out barrel as of yet, the crown on those rifles have been reworked

    A good addition for the rifle is a scope, I've see this one with s& H is about $150
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    here which is cheap compared with the real item which is almost $500

    A cool enhancement on the iron sights is this one, luminescent sights from glow-on.com really help at indoor ranges check this link on the vendors display in this forum
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  13. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    At $90, I'd go ahead and get two.:D
     
  14. ron12301

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    Well, I'm now the proud owner of a mosin nagant m91. I had just got the cosmoline cleaned off and went to fire the rifle, it was then I discovered that the man behind the counter gave me a box of 8mm instead of 7.62x54r. so I'll have to wait another day or so before I can actually fire the rifle. For less than $100 I don't think I can go wrong. The bore on the rifle looked in good shape and the barrel appears to have been recrowned. I am anxious to see what it will do at the range. Thanks to all for the info and advice, Ron
     
  15. 2hot2handle

    2hot2handle New Member

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    $100 for a rifle, $90 for 440 rounds you can't get any more fun for your money than that.
     
  16. RevDerb

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    AMEN!!!

    I bought one last November and before I knew it, I had 10. :eek:
     
  17. c3shooter

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    Here is a good starting point for you: Collecting and Shooting the Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 - HISTORY

    Read the article on "Sticky Bolt Syndome"- or carry a chunk of 2x4 to pound on the bolt.

    Milsurp ammo is cheap (for now- will not last forever) but corrosive primed. Not a problem- after shooting, wash out the bore with hot soapy water, rinse, dry.

    Kicks like a sonofagun. Get a slip on recoil pad.

    Fun shooter for the price. One of the few real bargains left in the gun world. Bear in mind that a decent .22 rifle will cost you more than a 91/30, or a M38, or M44.
     
  18. 30-30remchester

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    If you are looking for the finest Mosin Nagants then the ones built by Remington wins hands down. The fit and finish on them is supurb. Most Mosin Nagants were built in wartime and fit and finish was an unnessasary luxury. The Remington Mosins and for that matter the Remington Berthiers built for France are georgous.
     
  19. M14sRock

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    And now you have an excuse to buy a Mauser! Lucky dog......
     
  20. ron12301

    ron12301 New Member

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    Aw yes, It does appear that since I have a box of 8mm and no rifle that I need a mauser:) Every cloud has a silver lining.