mosin nagant vs 12 guage shotgun

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by hq357, Nov 29, 2013.

  1. hq357

    hq357 New Member

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    Right now im seriously thinking about buying a mosin nagant tommorow at my big 5 theyre going cheap i currently dont own any rifles besides a 22. I want a rifle that can effectivley take down big game at about 200 yards. I own a 12 guage shotgun and was wondering if the accuracy of a mosin is about the same as a 12 guage with slugs? What is the effective range of a mosin with iron sights? Should i save my money and buy a better gun instead of wasting money on a mosin? will a slug gun do? I know mosins are cheap bit if i already have a gun that can shoot almost the same as the mosin than id rather save up my money and get a rifle thats is a semi auto
     
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  2. kaido

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    Unless your shot gun is capable for a 3-4" group at 200 yards, I'd stick with getting a Mosin. I haven't owned one myself, but I have put a fair amount of rounds through a friends and I can tell you this, if I wasn't going on a vacation pretty soon, I'd be getting myself one for sure.

    As far as iron sights go, that'll depend on the shooter. I've seen guys hit out to 1000 yards with some rifles, not just a Mosin, while other can't hit a barn at 300 yards.

    I'm not sure if you do, but if you reload, you could get even better accuracy out of a Mosin then with either mil-surp or factory soft point ammunition.......long story short, for ranged shooting, the Mosin-Nagant wins hands down.
     

  3. Mercator

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    The only problem with any quality Mosin, you will have to trust the iron sights and yourself. Mounting a scope is a DIY project that is not guaranteed to end well. Also costs extra. Sniper Mosin rifles are way more $$$. A long barrel slug gun is just more practical, but for 200 I'd trust a 30-06 better.
     
  4. chloeshooter

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    Answering your specific question, a Mosin with a decent barrel, crown especially, is going to be a better choice out to 200 yards than a slug gun assuming we are talking about open sights vs open sights, or scoped vs scoped. Why? Because 200 yards is pushing the envelope for a sabot slug vs. the ballistics of a 30 caliber (7.62x 54r) round fired from a M-N. The Mosin round itself is formidable to say the least But here's the question: do you know how to properly inspect a cosmoline-caked 75 year old rifle? Would you be able to tell the difference between a damaged crown and one that is in tact? If you look down the barrel with a bore light, do you know what you are looking for? Most likely your first MN is a 'luck if the draw' situation if you are not sure what you are looking for. Actually it is a bit if a luck situation even if you DO know what you are looking for Key point about the Mosin Nagant: the price is right. If you are willing to put time and energy into cleaning it up and sighting it in.....what do you have to lose? You already own the shotgun.........

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  5. Donn

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    I know Mosins are all the rage just now, and for good reason. A big, stable, accurate platform that's reasonably priced and so's the ammo. That said, carrying a Mosin into the field on a hunting trip? I love my M1 Garand, can hit any target I can see, but it's the last rifle I'd take hunting for the same reason, too big & heavy. 357, if your heart's set on a Mosin, by all means, get it. MHO, there are better choices for hunting.
     
  6. chloeshooter

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    there are WAY better choices for hunting.....but his question was straight forward enough. if you can't handle carrying the Mosin for a bit in the field.....how are you going to get that dead deer out? :eek:
     
  7. hiwall

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    Yes, save a little more money and buy an inexpensive American hunting rifle.
     
  8. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Active Member

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    If too far in the woods, wrap the M-N around a tree limb and leave it. :p
     
  9. sandog

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    Milsurp bolt action rifles are a hoot to shoot, and with only iron sights can be very effective especially at the 200 yard range you specified. After all they dropped a lot of men in combat, and deer and men are similar size. Most where never designed for mounting an optic though, unless they were a sniper version. I've never owned a Mosin Nagant but have shot a few of my friends MN's. I have owned Lee Enfields and Springfields and shot them a lot. By all means get the Mosin if you want it, but I would put in a recommendation for something like the Stevens 200 in 7mm-08, ,308, .270 etc. They go for around $300.Very nice rifle for not much money. You can get them with a scope already mounted or put an excellent inexpensive scope like the Sightron S1 on it, $130-$140.
     
  10. chloeshooter

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    .....all made of plastic, that will probably be broken after being dropped once or twice and that Mosin will still be fully functional lol
     
  12. seancslaughter

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    Gander has Mosin 91/30s for $129 this weekend im seriously debating whether I should pick one up
     
  13. chloeshooter

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    stop debating and just do it. it does not have to be the best gun in your collection. it will most definitely be your most durable though!
     
  14. seancslaughter

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    yeah I want to bit rent is due if this thing I am working on pans out today I'm ordering it online
     
  15. hq357

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    Too late! I just bought a mosin nagan from big 5 for 180$! Its a hex reciecier 91/30 im amazed by how new it looks for such an old rifle all numbers match and the wood is beatiful! It came with 4 pouches, a bayonet, an oil can thing and some other type of pouch, looks pretty darn new to me bore has nice sharp rifling all for 180$ i bought a sexy beast!!
     
  16. 303tom

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    Looks good, you`ll enjoy it ! Have fun..................
     
  17. JonM

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    Clean it well. The chambers typically have caked in cosmoline and you need to get in there and soak it good with hoppes #9 solvent and a chamber brush. Even if it looks clean its prolly not.

    Second thing ammo.

    Surplus ammo is corrosive. Use very hot soapy water to clean thoroughly if use it. New production brown silver gold bear and winchester white box are non corrosive.

    In my mosins winchester white box is most accurate producing solid 1 inch groups at 100. It is also in the same class as 30-06. The bear ammo is a little weaker.
     
  18. chloeshooter

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    Nice looking Mosin!

    Question (and this happens a lot in these gun pics....)

    if you are going to go to all that trouble to take and post pics of your rifle.....why not just go ahead and make the damn bed?? :confused:
     
  19. hq357

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    Left at 5 am and Just got home and was too excited and tired to make it ill clean my room later ;)