Mosin Nagant thread!

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by chloeshooter, Nov 30, 2013.

  1. chloeshooter

    chloeshooter New Member

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    Are you a victim of the Mosin Nagant bug? These rifles are a must for anyone who:
    a) is into military history
    b) wants a budget bolt action 30 caliber
    c) interested in restore/ refurb work and practice and
    d) loves to shoot!

    It's high time we had a separate area here on the forum given the widespread interest in this firearm. Let's hear from the Mosin owners, show us your pics, stories, targets, hunting trophies you name it. Comrades, let your voice be heard!

    image-528732262.jpg image-3555701564.jpg image-793073883.jpg image-2525557011.jpg ** 100 yard open sights with 1940 Tula 91/30
     
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  2. E7018Dan

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    After firing a friends last summer i decided to purchase one yesterday in the mayhem that is black Friday at gander for $130. 91/30 1925 hex receiver. Decent shape, numbers matching. Looks to have been recrowned but barrel looks to have decent rifling even before cosmoline removal. No visible pitting, bolt face and lockup are good. Bolt seems smooth enough. I can't wait to get it out to the range. My one picture of her atm. I think I might've contracted that mosin bug.

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  3. chloeshooter

    chloeshooter New Member

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    Very nice. Let us know how she shoots!
     
  4. hq357

    hq357 New Member

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    Yesterday I picked up a 1930 mosin nagant hex reciever izvech for 180$ including tax the barrel and crown both look brand new the wood is nice smooth crisp trigger And the rifling is sharp it looks brand new
     
  5. hq357

    hq357 New Member

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    I named her izzy :)
     

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  6. hq357

    hq357 New Member

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    what method did you use to remove the cosmoline?
     
  7. JayCody

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    HOT water works well but dry and oil the metal soon as you are done cleaning or you will get rust.
     
  8. E7018Dan

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    I spent several hours today cleaning it. Fully disassembled, I started with (step one) just dry rags patches and a toothbrush, Remington action cleaner, repeat step one, wd40, repeat step one, remington oil, repeat step one, hoppes#9. Also used some skotch bright soaked in wd40 to lightly go over rough patches of finish on the stock to get rid of those ugly dark patches/lines. Be careful doing this as it'll take any thin spots off. If you do take to much off, you can try mixing some white vinegar with steelwhool and let it sit around overnight and darken up, then mix with a about 1/4 dark stain to use as a simple stain (bandaid). When i get a chance to go shoot her ill run a old bore snake through it dry once everythings warmed up, along with some patches in the receiver. Cosmoline is kinda waxy oil so having it warmed up makes it easier to clean. I probably went overkill on cleaning steps but all well.
     
  9. E7018Dan

    E7018Dan New Member

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    I like the lighter finish.
     
  10. vincent

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    People love to overthink this one...

    It's just grease...

    There are many, many methods for the initial cleaning, and if it works, and you like your method, awesome but...

    By far, the simplest thing to do is stop by an auto parts store and snag a can of brake cleaner. Spray down all metal parts...down the bbl, on all bolt parts..(DO NOT get it on the wood and wear safety glasses...can't stress that enough :eek: )...then clean and lube as you would any other gun. Easy peasy...

    All I did for the wood was to give it a firm wipedown with the 'rough' side of a terrycloth towel...done and done.

    If you think you are going to get all of the goop off in one sitting, you're kidding yourself. It'll come creeping out of all the nooks and crannies you never thought existed when you shoot it cuz that sucker gets HOT!!!...Hence the hand guard...:cool: As long as the bbl/rec/bolt are clean and dry, there usually aren't any problems...IE-'sticky bolt syndrome'...(key word 'usually'...;)

    After shooting corrosive ammo, hot, soapy water is the best way to remove the salts, (turkey baster works GREAT down the bbl) then, just clean as usual. People love to tout the usefulness Of Windex but they don't realize that it's the water in the Windex, and not the ammonia, that is doing the job.

    Gun pr0n time...

    1944 VKT Finnish M-39

    1940 Tula M91/30

    Eye candy...;)
     

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  11. hq357

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    Today I just bought a bottle of break free clp cleaner lube and protectant all in one im just going to spray it an wipe it down hopefully this will cut through the cosmoline if it dosent then ill just use the hot water method and clean it woth clp after is this a good idea?
     
  12. JayCody

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    It will work but hot water melts the Cosmo off faster. Break free is great for light cosmoline.
     
  13. SSGN_Doc

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    There is a wax component to Cosmoline that is not in standard grease.
     
  14. therewolf

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    No offense, and I also have a nice 91/30, but it would be a

    bit of misdirection to the Mosin Nagant noobs out there to

    tell them to get a full-size MN, if they are only looking for a

    practical shooter, in today's terms. Get a M44. The carbine

    is a great beater, and fits in your life.

    The original 91/30 is a great collector's item for a serious

    military collector, but way too long for everyday usage.
     
  15. E7018Dan

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    I don't think ill mind the length, but I agree the m44 would be welcome. Possibly a good truck gun.
     
  16. chloeshooter

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    Is the permanently attached bayonet on the M44 practical for you? Not for me, I'm looking for the M38. I don't plan on bayonet-ting anything lol
     
  17. SSGN_Doc

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    You won't find M44s at quite the bargain prices any more. Same with M38s.

    For the length of he 91/30, the balance is actually pretty good. I look at them as fun guns with some collector appeal, not really practical modern riflery.

    At the price and quantity of available 91/30s you could decide to forget about collector value and chop the barrel to 20" recrown it and mount an optic if you are more concerned about a having a bargain practical rifle.
     
  18. chloeshooter

    chloeshooter New Member

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    agree with you 100%. 75-100 year old milsurps are not modern rifles plain and simple. that said, from an open sight perspective, I can get darn close to Remington 700-like accuracy with them. There are places I hunt that the Mosin is more than enough rifle (woods for example) and there are places I hunt that using the Mosin w/ open sights would be foolish (central Montana). There certainly is no disputing the 7.62 x 54R round.
     
  19. robertb6112

    robertb6112 New Member

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    First rifle I owned. I payed $90 for mine about 5 years ago. Best $90 I've spent.
     
  20. John_Deer

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    The Mosin Nagants are a lot of fun to shoot. They are an effective deer rifle at close range. But lets be honest with ourselves and our readers. The Remington 770 is more accurate than any milsurp Mosin Nagant, even the sniper rifles. I know for a fact I can shoot a 1" group with any 770 in good condition at 100 yards. The best you can expect out of a milsurp Mosin Nagant is a 6" group at 100 yards. Good enough to kill a deer but not comparable to any modern rifle.

    I have seen the picture of the hits in the 3" target supposedly shot at 100 yards. I know for a fact no one can see a 3" target at 100 yards. I have tried to shoot small targets with very accurate rifles at 100 yards when I was younger. I couldn't see the target well enough to hit it every time with iron sights. At the time I had 20/10 vision that had been verified by an optometrist. A hunting guide who was a fine shot in his own right told me I had a bionic eye.

    Lets make FTF a place where people can get good reliable information. Not a place that reeks of BS.