Mosin Nagant Mods

Discussion in 'DIY Projects' started by Thatmoonshiner, Mar 2, 2013.

  1. Thatmoonshiner

    Thatmoonshiner New Member

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    So i wanted to mod a a gun since i just did a restoration so i was thinking of a cheap like $80 mosin with a crappy stock that i'd replace with black synthetic and i wanted to chrome plate the entire gun except the rifling inside the barrel because i know this wouldn't work on a mil surp rifle, but i have 2 questions, will the chrome plating stiffen up the action and should i go nickel or chrome? I don't want a pimp feel to it, more of a light two tone to make an old gun a piece of art. I just don't know if nickel plating is shiny enough because i want a little reflection, but not a mirro finish, if any one has a good link to a close up of a nickel plated firearm that would be great can't find a close up on google.
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  2. atrbertothy

    atrbertothy New Member

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    You would have the option of the when you get it plated, if not changing the finish won't be that hard. If you want a finish that is in the middle of a matte finish to a mirror finish go with a satin finish. All you would have to do is polish to plating out with 400 to 600 grit paper using WD-40 as a lube using a shoe shin polishing to keep polish marks going in the same direction.
     

  3. Gators

    Gators New Member

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    Naval jelly works wonders to remove old blue from components.

    Wear gloves, the cancer warning on the side is no joke!
     
  4. outlaw206

    outlaw206 New Member

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    NEVER USE WD-40 It is a very good penetrating oil and very very hard to clean off ( more times than not a compleat disassembly and cleaning every lil part is the only stop to it ) the problem will show as bad ammo when in fact the ammo is not fauling but the wd-40 has penetrated into your percussion cap an killed it there are a panthera of high grade oils out there take some time to talk to a gunsmith as to which you would like to use
     
  5. outlaw206

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    As far as the plating goes i would go with a matte nickel and keep shining till i got it to where i wanted it for the fact that that you can always shine up never down and Chrome is very very shinny
     
  6. BillDeShivs

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    OK. I'm a plater, among other things.
    First- WD 40 won't hurt primers. This is an old wive's tale that has been disproved many times. I have used WD 40 for 40 years with no ill effects.

    Now- any plating only reflects the metal finish underneath it. In other words, shiny metal plates shiny. Satin finished metal plates satin. Plating is very thin and does not cover surface imperfections. It only colors the metal. Nickel is yellowish. Chrome is whiter. Once metal is plated, any further polishing or abrasion will remove the plating. You have to have the surface finish you want before plating. You can't polish it brighter later.

    Plating a Mosin, even if the polishing is already done, would cost more than the gun.

    Last point- You young guys are seeing the LAST of the cheap imported surplus guns. Obama just outlawed importing any more. Your $80 Mosins will be $350 Mosins in a few years (if you leave them alone.)
     
  7. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i'm with Bill, that as many of these cheap Mosins have been bubbafied and modded over the years because they were so cheap, that those that are factory stock are going to increase in price over the next few years. pretty close to what happened with all the Mausers over the years.
     
  8. outlaw206

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    Well by using wd-40 for 40 years i pity your weapons i am a 5 year vet sniper and have been a gunsmith for almost 4 years on top of that
     
  9. outlaw206

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    As far as the plating goes thats interesting thank you and im with ya on the priceing
     
  10. BillDeShivs

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    My weapons are just fine. I was an FFL and a gunsmith/engraver for 30 years. I'm also a cutler and a jeweler. I think I know my way around guns and mechanicals. Google my name sometime if you are interested.
     
  11. outlaw206

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    Its all just a matter of what you want to risk and i wasnt saying u didnt know your way sir
     
  12. dteed4094

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    If you want to mod a Mosin to end up with a cheap modern type sporting rifle, you will only end up with a cheap kind of sporting rifle that cost more than a factory made, bottom end sporting rifle. I did a totally reversible mod on a Mosin including; a bent bolt that I bent, a timney trigger, composite stock, polished bolt, recrown. scope mount made from an original rear sight mount, new sling and swivels and finish on the stock. I have more $$$ in than a new gun would cost me not to mention hours of time. It is not near as accurate as most any bottom end new guns. I learned a bit and enjoyed doing it, but I knew all of this when I started so don't be disillusioned with the outcome and have a ball turning a $150.00 piece of history into a $85.00 sporting rifle, it's yours to do what you want to it. Pictures are pre scope and final finish and bent bolt.
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  13. Mercator

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    The Mosin is an anomaly among mil surp firearms. No other gun 70-100 years old can be had today in 100% gtg condition for pocket change. Or even unfired, as is the case with many M44. The rifle is ridiculously undervalued only because of 1, its astronomical production numbers in the past, and 2, the fear of foreign invasion that kept possibly millions of them warehoused just in case. I agree the $350 price tag is not far off. I also agree that leaving a Mosin alone may be a better investment than most sporterizing jobs.
     
  14. hoovco

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    How to modernize a mosin? Buy ammo that isn't mil surp. Ha.
     
  15. dteed4094

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    If you are talking about an ATI stock, They are crap. A lot of us think the more beat up a Mosin, the more realistic it is and should be respected proportionally. I am about ready to return my Mosin sporter to its original glory. I might keep the Timney trigger?
     
  16. Chainfire

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    I was with you until you said Obama banned further importation. Where is the back-up for that statement and did anyone remember to tell Molot about it? They are currently flooding the market with Mosins. Some folks are a bit confused over what is and what is not importable.
     
  17. BillDeShivs

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    Only back up I have is that recently Obama signed an executive order banning the importation of military weapons. Look it up. Signed just after the Navy yard shootings, if I remember correctly.
     
  18. Mercator

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    Bill no military weapons have been directly imported for 20 years now. Only part kits and sporting makeovers. Obama banned re-importation of guns issued overseas aka bringbacks.
     
  19. BillDeShivs

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    I did a little more research.
    The CMP HAS been bringing in military weapons. They no longer can do that.
    Nor can anyone re-import former US military weapons. It is unclear to me whether miltary weapons other than US weapons can be imported.
    You can bet the EO will be enforced in the strictest sense, though.
     
  20. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    My only question is where are you going to find an $80.00 Mosin-Nagant? That ship has sailed.