Mosin Nagant Bolt Stuck. PLEASE HELP!!

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by asheraden, Nov 7, 2011.

  1. asheraden

    asheraden New Member

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    Hey, I'm new here. Looks like an awesome forum :).


    So like the title says, my Mosin's bolt keeps getting stuck. Here's the thing: I've never even fired it! I've played around with the bolt many times and it's never gotten stuck, but recently I bought some snap caps for it and after a couple times of ejecting them, the bolt gets stuck after I fire on a snap cap.

    I'm pretty certain the bolt's not getting stuck inside the boltway because I've completely degreased the rifle of cosmoline; and besides that when I pull the cocking knob back it's as smooth as butter.

    Here's another strange thing: when I dry fire it, it's completely smooth and doesn't get stuck. It only gets stuck after I fire on a snap cap.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated. I plan on shooting this rifle tomorrow and don't want to have to pull the cocking knob back every time I want to eject a round.
     
  2. vincent

    vincent New Member

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    It's a great forum, when you can, stop by the intro thread and say hello!

    You don't need snap caps for the 91/30, dry fire it all day long, it won't hurt a thing. These guns are notorious for "sticky bolt syndrome", the Russians didn't have ergonomics in mind when they designed it so it's going to be stiff cycling the action. You may want to have the headspace checked. If need be, pull the cocking knob back after each shot, that won't hurt it either. If you need quick follow up shots, this really isn't the gun for that. Google sticky bolt/M91/30 and pick which fix is best for you...
     

  3. asheraden

    asheraden New Member

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    Yeah, I know I don't "need" quick follow up shots, it's just a fun gun, but I'd like to be able to. I mean it's not just a couple of times it gets stuck, it's EVERY TIME there's a cartridge (snap cap) inside of it.

    And I've scoured the internet; can't find any suggestions that don't have something to do with removing cosmoline (which I've already done).
     
  4. vincent

    vincent New Member

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    Just out of curiosity, what year and armory is your 91/30? My 1940 Tula is a total mix and match when it comes to parts. With the exception of the bolt assembly, not a matching serial # to be found. My 1941 Izvehek (sp?) is all original and cycles just fine. My .02 is that my 1940 isn't "mated" to itself, wasn't broken in as a whole and it takes a bit of azz to cycle the action where my 1941 with it's original parts is tons smoother. There should be a lot more responses for you by people A LOT more knowledgeable than me soon...I'm just mindin' the store ;)
     
  5. trip286

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    Scrub the hell out of the chamber. Case/dummy round is sticking in leftover goo. There is a sticky here on cleaning the mosin but hell if I remember where. Submerse the chamber in boiling water is one way to take care of that, then flush with more clean scalding hot water
     
  6. asheraden

    asheraden New Member

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  7. trip286

    trip286 New Member

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    Yeah it's supposed to be from heat and pressure. Mine has never done it. You think head spacing could do that?
     
  8. vincent

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    Hmm, well, I'm out of ideas...keep an eye on this thread, I guarantee someone has some other input, sorry to hear you're having so much trouble..
     
  9. RufusTFirefly

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    asheraden: you say that the bolt only sticks on a snap cap. I would say go out tho the range and put a couple dozen rounds thru her and see if the problem is still there with live ammo. Maybe you have a defective snap cap, just sayin'.

    Rufus
     
  10. Jpyle

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    Check your firing pin protrusion using the tool that came with the rifle. The pin should touch the .075" notch AND pass freely under the .095" notch. Excess protrusion of the pin may exert pressure on the bolt head and firing pin spring locking the bolt against the lockup lugs. The pressure is obviously not there if the chamber is empty. Do you have to push the bolt forward to rotate the handle and clear the action? Is the extractor damaging the snap cap?
     
  11. Jpyle

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    Could also be a head space issue as suggested. You might want to have a gunsmith check it out before you put live rounds through it unless you can get ahold of a set of Go-NoGo gauges.
     
  12. asheraden

    asheraden New Member

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    I don't have that tool. I didn't even get a sling. I didn't find out until later that Mosins usually come with all those accessories.

    And no, the snap caps are fine.
     
  13. moneymaker17

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    did you get that yellowish grease off the gun(in the bolt, barrel etc etc)
    the grease or oil that sits on the gun preventing it from rusting.
    if you shoot it with that gunk on it it will heat up and could lock the bolt into the chamber. very well could of happened.
    Best of luck bud.
     
  14. dragunovsks

    dragunovsks New Member

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    My m44 did that a couple times. It was stuck so tight i had to kick it open with my foot. When i got the empty cartridge out i found it was split pretty bad. It was split from the mouth through the bottleneck all the way down to with a 1/4 inch of the base of the case. I got a 300 round tin of bulgarian fmj, when i use them up i wont buy anymore of them.

    This was an isolated incident as i had the rifle two years at the time and had already fired a couple hundred rounds through it. Two of the five in rounds in the magazine split during that salvo. It hasnt happened since then and that was about 3 years ago.