modifying my levergun ??

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Tailypoe, Nov 7, 2011.

  1. Tailypoe

    Tailypoe New Member

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    I've been seriously thinking about gettign a marlin model 1895sbl in .45-70 to accompany me to Argentina. Military rifles are frowned upon there, much like here in Canada. ... I've seen " mare's legs ", lever rifles where the stock has been shortened, usually a pistol calibre carbine. I don't like these.
    I've been thinking of cutting some wood off ( How dare you, such a beautiful gun, I know. ) to make it lighter. ...
    Is this wise ? could it coause problems with the way the weapon handles ?
    Is there a way i can modify my stock to " skeletonize " it ? I don't know about the kind of wood they use, it appears to be stained grey, probably made from oak or walnut, in my estimation.
    Do y'all know anything about this ? I don't rly see why i couldn't cut a chunk out and sand it, but I don't want to get an expensive gun and then mess it up permanently with a hacksaw.
    ... what are your thoughts on this subject ? I think if it helps portability as a shtf rifle, go for it.
     
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  2. Tailypoe

    Tailypoe New Member

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    winchester 30 30

    I know the winchester 30-30 we have has had the stock refitted with a buttpad, with no ill effect on the wood.
    ... I've seen a couple of " mare's legs " ppl made with some kind of saw.
     

  3. pioneer461

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    I think any time you change the length of pull on a long gun, you need to adapt to the shorter, or longer, stock. You won't know if it effects your shooting until you do it.

    Have you searched for after market stocks (wood or synthetic) that may fit your needs?
     
  4. Hinermad

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    The 1895SBL has a laminated stock, but I don't know what wood they used for the laminate. The plain wood stocks are walnut.

    If you're reluctant to cut the laminate, maybe you could get a replacement stock and cut that? Save the stock, uh, stock for when you decide to restore it to its original configuration.

    I understand the .45-70 has a respectable recoil. I'd ask around and see if that might be a reason to not skeletonize the laminate stock. Maybe there's an aftermarket synthetic stock that will fit that's already skeletonized.

    Dave
     
  5. Hawg

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    If you cut a chunk out of the middle it won't be enough weight reduction to really notice plus the stock will be much weaker and prone to breaking.
     
  6. JTJ

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    You are right about the recoil. It is considerable and I would not lighten the stock. On the plus side the recoil is more of a hard push than a sharp pulse. The Ruger #3 was worse but the nastiest one was the Browning with its narrow, rounded and curved butt plate. I know one guy that broke his arm when he rushed a shot and did not get it properly mounted.
     
  7. Tailypoe

    Tailypoe New Member

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    hollow stock

    I'm a guy who can crank off 12 .ga target loads all day with no ill effect.
    I know there are .45 70 revolvers, and the thomspon contender handguns out there that are surprisingly popular ...
    I'm a well-built guy, at least sicnce i started lifting weights. I don't see why i couldn't mod my rifle a bit so it could hold some survival gear. That would be awesome, having a lighter and some small supplies / tools chillin' in my stock.
     
  8. therewolf

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    I'd have to agree with Hinermad, if the original is nice,why not get a

    replacement stock, and cut on that one. I've got a very respectable Black

    Walnut stock on my Marlin, just the thought of cutting it makes me cringe...
     
  9. cmhill

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    If you are attempting to shorten it but without looseing weight you can always shorten the stock but before attacting a buttplate or recoil pad drill into the stock from the end and cast lead weights or something of the sort to compensate for the weight lost from shortening
     
  10. Tailypoe

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    That would kind of defeat the point,
    as the original idea was to make it more portable. I guess turning it into a steve mcqueen-stlye mare's leg would be too unwieldly for most people. Me, tho, I'm definitely not most ppl. :cool:
     
  11. therewolf

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    My issue with that is muzzle flip.

    If you've shot any of the T/C pistols, you'll

    know what I mean.

    Just try holding a 45-70 rifle the way you'd hold a mare's leg,

    and you'll get a similar recoil.

    Hollywood played down how jumpy a mare's leg really is.
     
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  12. Muliemaster

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    I see a broke nose in his future
     
  13. Hawg

    Hawg Active Member

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    He'll learn........The hard way.
     
  14. therewolf

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    Dang, guys, chill.

    This is one of our own here.

    OP, I fired a T/C chambered in .308, the muzzle flip was

    INSANE.

    I can imagine a pistol caliber would be OK, like.357 or

    even .44, but a real rifle caliber might break your wrist.

    I imagine Hollywood's throwback was based on the

    44-40, which was popular as a "common" cartridge in the

    early American west, for rifle and pistol. It also was milder

    than a .44 Mag.

    I'd try a Mare's Laig variant before you travel with it,

    it might just ruin your trip, if you don't.
     
  15. Tailypoe

    Tailypoe New Member

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    well, I'd certainly get a feel for the gun(s) before i went hackin' it up. I've heard tell of people with hollowed out stocks on their pcc's that keep important things in there. Of course, having the gun, i could probably get anything i need with that ...
    I guess I'll just revise and revamp my EDC items a bit more, I'm gonna make myself some slacks so my jeans don't sag. hm.... synthetic stocks look like a valid option but gee wizz, they are ugly as ... POLITICS ! :( eight pounds ain't a lot, anyways, next to most ar's and ak's.