model 700 sendero

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by skeniger2002, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. skeniger2002

    skeniger2002 New Member

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    I'm thinking buying a 300 win mag model 700 sendero. What scope and ammo configuration would be best for Target an deer hunting.
     
  2. mrb1982

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    I got a buddy who shoots 180gr Hornady Spire Points and 4350 powder and seems pleased as pie with it. Scope is all personal preference. I have a 6-24 Vortex Crossfire on my 7mm Rem Mag Sendero because I was on a budget but it is very good glass for the money.
     

  3. skeniger2002

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    How's the recoil on the 300 win mag and the 7mm REM mag. Is it lighter than the sporter rifles or the same
     
  4. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    recoil will be a little lighter than a sporter model due to weight, rule of thumb, lighter guns tend to have more felt recoil. heavier guns, absorb some of it. the 300 win. mag. has a bit more than the 7mm rem.mag. if you hunt with it, you won't pay as much attention to the recoil, but if you plan on using it for target shooting, give some serious thought on reloading and using slower burning powders as this will help with felt recoil. another suggestion, if planning on using it for target shooting, consider a muzzle brake, it will also help with recoil.
     
  5. skeniger2002

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    That what I was thinking, I'm not scared of recoil. I just don't want to see a deer at 200, 300 yards an flinch an wound it. I'm not doubting myself on the shot, but I had it happen to me with my 270 weatherby mag thankfully I missed the deer. I rather miss than shooting a leg off.
     
  6. jpattersonnh

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    Magnums and target guns usually don't really match. Either do hunters and target guns. My .308HB target gun under went a scope change 2 years ago to make it more hunter friendly. It is still a heavy barrel, still has a bi-pod, same stock, but I replaced the 6-24x40mmAO scope for a 3-12x42mmAO. I really did not loose much overall. I gained a precision rifle that I can use for game.

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    I changed the stock on this 1955 Husqvarna '98. It is so much easier to shoot now, almost target.
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    Varmint guns and target are really close!
     
  7. skeniger2002

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    There 2 beautiful guns you got there. I already own a 308 in a weatherby vangaurd, I love that gun.
     
  8. jpattersonnh

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    So why a Magnum target gun? Something in 6.5x55, 7x57, 7-08, .257 would be a great choice. Those long slender bullets are awesome for target and hunting. I'd love to build a 6.5-06 or a .25-06. The .257 Roberts is a great round. I still am looking for the rifle. If you reload they are very cheap and pack a big punch. Mid calibers including 6mm/.243 do great jobs at both. JMHO
     
  9. skeniger2002

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    They all are great guns you just mentioned there, but if it came down where I was hunting deer or bear I like the harder hitting gun especially if it came to be a 200+ yards shot. I own a 7mm08 never shot it yet but plan to. I know that far of a shot is risky to take I prefer a 50 yard shot over a 200 yard shot. My first deer was taken at 200 yards with a 243 couldn't tell it was hit.
     
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  10. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    jp, the 6.5x55 is a very nice little round and i had a chance this past summer to shoot one in a winchester m70, and i fell in love with it. this is one that has been put on my to get list! the 6.5-06 is one that i am having built now for a target rifle, and i cant wait for it to be finished.

    7mm-08 if loaded with the correct ammo will have no problem on deer at 200 yards. the 7mm-08 rifle i have is the one that gets shot the most. this is one round that truly improved upon the 308 and IMO, the 308 is an excellent round. get that 7mm-08 out and shoot it. i reload more 7mm-08 ammo than any other i own. i have probably shot at least 500-600 rounds through mine in less than a year.
     
  11. Marlinman

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    That 7mm08 is deadly accurate on deer out to 400 yards w good bullets. If you reload you might also want to consider a warbird round for long range target/hunting.

    God didnt make all men equal colonel sam colt did
     
  12. jpattersonnh

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    The 6.5x06 is a great round. It does not give much up to the .264 Mag, it is not a barrel burner and can be loaded w/ down to a 87gr and up to 160gr bullet. My 6.5's tend to like 100..160gr. 87's are ok for short distances, but accuracy goes south quick if you push them too fast.
     
  13. skeniger2002

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    Thanks for all the insight, but I've decided on the gun I'm getting.
     
  14. mrb1982

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    I think with the Sendero platform and about any caliber you want you will be just fine. I know a lot of people kind of scoff at using a heavy gun for hunting, but I got used to it real quick when I started piling deer up with one. hahaha To answer your question about recoil, I had a Remington 700 SPS in 7mm Rem Mag and then sold it when I got the 7mm Rem Mag Sendero, and there is quite a bit of difference in felt recoil, shooting the exact same box of factory ammo I was shooting at the time. Pretty descent factory trigger for hunting purposes with the newer Pro trigger, if you were going to shoot target, you might want something you can get a little lighter. I got a Harris Bipod on mine and a 6-24x50 scope and it is a killing machine. It will be even better when I get some rounds reloaded. This is about all I have observed from mine to this point. I know it is kind of a spendy gun, but it has been worth every penny.
     
  15. skeniger2002

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    What are the grouping at 100yards
     
  16. mrb1982

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    I was shooting an inch group at 100yds with factory ammo without having the barrel broke in yet or adjusting the trigger or anything. I got it out of the box, put the scope on it, cleaned it, sighted it in, and shot 2 deer in the neck within 20 sec of each other, one at 100yds, the other at a little over 200yds. I look forward to reloading some good rounds with some 168gr. Bergers so we'll see what she can do then. It came from the factory at 3 13/16 lb trigger, which I will take down to 3lb before I start working up loads.
     
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  18. skeniger2002

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    That is a nice rifle,but I'm not looking for a used magnum rifle always told if you buy a magnum go new.
     
  19. Axxe55

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    most magnums are sometimes the best bargains on rifles IMO, because of two reasons, one, most don't get shot a lot because they were purchased for hunting. second, because people who bought them thought they wanted a magnum until they shot a few rounds through them and didn't like the recoil. over the years, i have picked up a few because of this.
     
  20. jpattersonnh

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    If you read the discription, it says 40..50 rounds through it. That poor thing is not even broken in. New is 1450.00, this one is $950.00 w/ brass, dies, a few bullets. $500.00 less w/ $70.00 in supplies. Hey, to each their own.