Mitchell's Mausers question

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by TheDesertFox, Mar 20, 2013.

  1. TheDesertFox

    TheDesertFox New Member

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    I'm looking to by a K98k from MM, but I've heard some bad things about them. Are they really that bad? Does anyone have experiance with them? I am mainly looking for a rifle to shpot with that looks good, but it doesn't have to be in pristine condition. Are there any alternatives to MM ( not gunshows)
     

  2. zaitsev44

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    Well if all you want is a shooter than they're good, but most if not all the historical value is gone. They sand the stock down and refinish it, the strip the metal and reblue it, the grind off the numbers and forge new ones just to "make it match", and they put fake markings and stamps on it. But hey, a Mauser is still a Mauser at heart and they function good just as good as a vet bring back Mauser, so go ahead, but if you want it for the historical significance then keep looking. I was going to buy a Yugo M48 Mauser from a guy who was selling it and the crest was completely gone, the stock was soft an the metal looked absolutely new, I passed on it.
     
  3. TheDesertFox

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    Hmmm ok. Thanks for the advice
     
  4. jpattersonnh

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    I know it is late in the game, but I've read this a few times and I'll give my take on Mitchells Mausers. They are a fraud. They were selling WWII Yugo 24/47's on their site. Only one problem. Production on the 24/47 started in 1947, 2 years after the war ended. They put together guns, restamp parts and charge stupid high prices for them. They have 0 value to anyone that is looking for the real deal. You can still get a really nice original 24/47 from Samco for 269.00. Great shooters.
     
  5. MaxImpactGuns

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    I would agree MM is a total ripoff. I've got all original k98's. two of them i've refinished the stocks and brought some life back into them the way they were issued during the war. The other few I have I've just cleaned and removed all the cosmoline. I have ONE vet bring back that does not have all matching numbers but doesn't have imported markings. They're the best bolt action you could own IMO. Look online. Jackson Armory in Dallas, Tx has them from time to time and all original. The matching '98's are over $1000 but you're paying for a piece of priceless history. Good luck!
     
  6. Milsurpshooter60

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    Well glad i never bought a mitchell then.:confused:
     
  7. jpattersonnh

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    You just recommended one on another thread.
     
  8. Milsurpshooter60

    Milsurpshooter60 New Member

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    Was before i read this one my man i never ordered from em they look nice in the pic,s,Was trying to help did that become a crime?I went on their website and they looked tremendous all i know ,Did not see this thread get ya answer?:p if not well do not know what to tell ya and i did not say order it ,i said give em a look, they looked good to me.Happy now? jeez.Guess some just like making wise remark,s .
     
  9. MaxImpactGuns

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    yep

    you were smart staying away from them if you want any value to it. The only thing they have going for them is they're pretty good shooters. i'll leave it at that! Look at some of the originals for sale @ JacksonArmory.com

    they're pricy but boy are they gorgeous!
     
  10. Milsurpshooter60

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    T/Y my freind ya get what ya pay for i agree ill check it out thanx again.Like i said on the web site mm has what looks like gorgeous rifle,s but unfortunatley a lot like to take advantage of people who do not know what to look for .I was seriously considering them for a german sniper i bought a chech brno 98 ill build my own .
     
  11. jpattersonnh

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    If you want the correct parts, let me know.
    The incorrect part is the trigger gaurd. It is what would tell a collector it is not 100% original.
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    Need to be Honest. I could get the original and correct trigger gaurd and bottom metal, but that would not be right.
     
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  12. Milsurpshooter60

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    That is exact same rifle i have are those the turret mounts and ring,s from the accumounts?I kinda like the swept back looking ones from accumounts .but ill take what i can get if the price is right.Thing is i only want to do it once and right first time.what part,s do you have my freind?or where did you get those mount,s and scope?
     
  13. MaxImpactGuns

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    well they've all been pretty much modern day re-arsenaled IMO. If I wanted that I would just do it myself. My dad has re-finished two stocks on 2 of my 6 k98's and they look great! They had a darker bluing and it makes them standout alot. I should take some pictures and post them. But I think that needs to goto another thread.
     
  14. MaxImpactGuns

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    I could spot that one from a mile away LOL!! Also scope is not a Zeiss which was what the snipers used. They did however have a larger trigger guard to allow easy firing in the winters with winter gloves on. I have a book on K98's which covers the entire history of the rifle. All the variants and what not. I paid around $80 for the book. It's called "Back Bone of the Wehrmacht". Definitely worth it if you plan on collecting. I've been searching tirelessly for an SS stamp but they're so hard to come by and at least several thousand for one. Also something of that magnitude would require and physical inspection as there are probably some fakes circulating around as originals.
     
  15. therewolf

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    I have mixed feelings towards them.

    I collect Milsurp, but I love shooting.

    I've been lucky, as far as getting decent

    rifles which have matching serials. Such as with my

    M/Ns and SKSs.

    I have a few great shooters with all matching serials, so

    maybe it doesn't matter so much, at least to me.

    I recently acquired an AR15 which is made by Colt, and

    looks exactly like an M16A2. Am I going to obsess over the fact

    it's not actually an army issue? No, I'm just deliriously happy it shoots

    well. From a shooter's point of view, I'd rather have a Mitchell which

    is complete, looks great, and shoots well, than spend 5X as much for a greasy

    old Mauser, with a corroded old barrel, in fair condition, that's "authentic"...
     
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  16. Milsurpshooter60

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    Agreed i just spent a month worrying about shooting an unissed n5mk1 and some collecter purist beating the value up because i shoot it ,i like redoing them myself , and am a disabled retired vet now so my wallet just cant get me 100% authentic all the time on my milsurps, some are all maTching but i still love shooting them some are not , my point is , you are still shooting history and and when you restore them or sporterize them to what you want ,it becomes more of a part of you and the personality you have ,I love mint unissued so called real collecters as well when i can afford them , but regardless when i do them myself they always tend to draw a crowd at range and shoot straight that is all i care about more than is it all matching and so highly prized it just sits.to me it is about firing historical rifles which are still in working condition and working 70 yrs later.Something to be said about takeing a 70 yr old rifle into woods and harvesting wild game that gets my blood circulating .Adrenelane is an addictive chemical lol.
     
  17. Chainfire

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    If you are looking for a "shooter" consider a Finn M-39. They were produced by the thousands, not the millions, and are sure to gain in value. They shoot as well or better than any WWII era bolt action rifle. They have a great history, and they cost in the $350.00 range. For a few bucks more, you can buy one that is in un-issued condition, and is all original. These rifles are also available in antique dates and, therefore, available for purchase online without any FFL. These shoot the 7.54 x 54R ammo which is in the same power range as a .308/30.06, and is available and cheap by comparison.
     
  18. MaxImpactGuns

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    Those Swiss rifles are pretty nice looking too! I've been considering one of those. I see everyone's point on the issue of originality. Most of the time you're going to find a nice rifle with a decent barrel so accuracy was never really lost. I just can't argue the fact that the German people make amazing stuff. Guns, knives, cars, electronics. I hate to say this but most of my firearms are not made in USA. There is also a reason the modern bolt action is based on the Mauser design. And they're out lasting time right now with the right care!