mini 14

Discussion in 'Mini-14 Forum' started by bobbyb13, Feb 22, 2009.

  1. bobbyb13

    bobbyb13 New Member

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    Neighbor three houses away bought a Mini 14 from a pawn shop for $750.00 (nuts) We tried it today with 6 types of ammo, three different scopes, and 8 to 10 inch groups (patterns) at 100 yards. Got any suggestions other than using it for a tent stake. I checked and rechecked every screw, and anything else I cpould think of over a freezing two hour period. I suggested he return it to the pawn shop (good luck with that) or send it to Ruger. He is not happy.
     
  2. dunerunner

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    Good grouping for a Mini!! I haven't even been able to hit the target material at 100 yds. with mine. Guess I'll just have to wait 'till they get closer! :D
     

  3. mrm14

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    If its the older 180 series Mini-14 he definately paid too much for it and accuracy on these skinny barelled guys really sucked. If it is a newer 580 series Mini-14 they go for new at present for about $700.00+. I bought a new 580 series in 2008 and with a Leupold VXI 2-7X30mm scope I shoot 1-3/4" groups at 100 yards all day long. The main improvements that this newer 580 series needs is a good trigger job and possible bedding. Also check your pull lenght of the stock as these factory stocks are undersized for my likings. I added 2 inches of length to mine with stack plates on the butt of the stock to correct the pull length for me and it really helped. The trigger job, bedding, and corrected lenght of stock for you may help with accuracy. My trigger weight now is just under 3 pounds and it makes a big difference for me. If your friend has the older 180 series theres not much you can do for it's accuracy problems without spending considerable dollars.
     
  4. freefall

    freefall New Member

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    Couldn't you full length bed it and help it out?
     
  5. JiroZero713

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    The new Mini-14s are kick *** from what I've seen...Shot one myself and was about to get an older model...but went with the Kel-Tec Instead...and that one is cheaper and better than the mini and an AR-15 HEHE....ahahaha.


    Just wish I could afford the ammo....
     
  6. roosterjuicer

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    ive never shot a mini 14 personally but they do have a reputation of being pretty inaccurate
     
  7. hudd357mag

    hudd357mag New Member

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    Guess I lucked out. I have always read about how much people complain about Mini-14s and I have always got 2-3" groups at 100 yards.

    Its a stainless one. Dont know if they were just better made or ???
     
  8. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    So THAT is why almost nobody got shot on The A-Team, no wonder. Sorry, had to. :D
     
  9. Jo da Plumbr

    Jo da Plumbr New Member

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    Bobby
    You could always have him add it to the debris pile next time you blow one up!:D
     
  10. tuckinauster

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    I hope your kidding....


    If im trying, I can usually get my dads older Mini down to about 2.5 - 3 MOA. Its not great, but it is what it is.
     
  11. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ Well-Known Member

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    Different mini's

    I had just read in Handloader Magazene about the Mini little did I know they had came out with 3 different rifling twist rates in the production of the Mini-14 , 1 turn in 7, 1 turn in 9, 1 turn in 11 not in that order depending on when it was produced, some types ammo just wont shoot ! must determine which twist rate you have and shoot the correct velocity and weight bullet I guess.
    My Mini does shredd pop cans at 75 yards with no problem, my main problem is holding still to shoot such a light carbine to shoot good.
     
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  12. Dr. Marneaus

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    As others have said, these reifles are somewhat notorious for patterning, not grouping, haha.

    there are a ton of things you can do to help with it, including making or purchasing a barrel strut. this seems to make one of the biggest improvements.

    there are other things, such as bedding, that help also, and can be done by you.
     
  13. Rex in OTZ

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    Northern Mini

    I was lucky when I bought mine in pre-trashed condition it looked like it was rode hard and put away wet, still shoots pretty good for a standard Mini.
    I would have to take a look at the Serial # to figure the era it was produced (type rifling twist rate).
     
  14. Rex in OTZ

    Rex in OTZ Well-Known Member

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    From what I learned the Mini does pretty good the best thing is resurch what they need and just do what is needed, bedding and muzzle break or trimming back barrel length or adding a barrel strut.
    I guess I was wrong on the 1 in 11 inch its actually 1 turn in 10
    mine was banged out in 1992 with a 1in 7" twist.
    ruger mini-14's 1978-1985 was 1 turn in 10", 1986-1994 1 turn in 7" 1995-present is 1 turn in 9"
    some the older mini's need to modify extractor on the bolt so extracted cases dont strike the scope.
    Seems the accuracy issue is bedding the stocks to take up freeplay at the recoil luggs, and the barrels they have trimmed them back to 17" takeing some the excess vibration out reduceing the groups in conjunction with bedding to the 1.5 - 2" area, also adding a barrel stiffener strut along the bottom has been reported to knock off 1/2" off the groups, also adding a muzzle break/flash suppressor adds weight to the barrel stabilizeing it.

    Mini's are a favorite in these parts not because of target rifle accuracy but because of reliability and scopeability and the ability to perform under conditions that give even bolt rifles a hard time of it! they shoot MOA caribou all week long with no hassles, The locals long ago learned to stear clear of the little black AR "jam-a-matic's" for failure to feed in the arctic coastal conditions in a hunting situation.
     
  15. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Reliability? I had 3 different ones inthe mid 80's that would rarely shoot a complete magazine with out at least one jam. I once, accidentally hit the broad side of a barn with mine, I was standing inside the barn when this accident happened.

    I had 3 only because I sent the first one back to Ruger and they simply replaced it. The second one blew up about 6 months later. It went back to Ruger and they replaced it. I immediately took the brand new, unfired replacement and traded it in on an AR-15A2. I have had ZERO problems with that rifle in 24 years.
     
  16. Kaptin

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    Sounds like poor marksmanship
     
  17. Kaptin

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    The Mini14 is, if nothing else, DEPENDABLE. I don't know what to say after reading your post. I sure hope that people do not believe everything they read on the internet. The part about it blowing up was really dramatic. If you use factory magazines it wont jam.

    As for the accuracy, the mini has never been a tack driver, but you can hit with in a 5 inch pattern at 200 yards with pretty much any of the vintage models. As someone stated earlier, they came with different twist on the barrel and the bullet weight has a lot to do with accuracy.
    My latest one is a new NRA model and it shoots 2 inch groups at 100 yards.
     
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  18. Laufer

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    My Mini 14 was built in '90.

    It has been as reliable as a buddy's WASR AK-47 Clone.
    I saw a round jam in his and it was probably during ejection.

    Therefore, even if it only happened twice, this 14 is just as reliable as an AK design. And although my 30-rd. Promag has been loaded between 6 and 25 rounds (to avoid excess ammo consumption), it has never misfed, and its fit is fairly loose.
    Bought both the old rifle (+ old R. factory mag.) and the ( then) brand-new Promag magazine one year ago.
    When first being tried out, even my old Ruger factory 20-rd. mag misfed twice, but none after that. Gun stores let used guns dry out with no oil.

    My only complaint is with the Wolf or Silver Bear .223 prices.
     
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  19. bobbyb13

    bobbyb13 New Member

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    I beg to differ Sir.

    I have shot expert for most of my 60 years, military, and citizen. This weapon had problems. It was used, I don't know It's history. It has been returned to Ruger. They replied that it was the barrell, with no specifics, and it would be repaired without charge, which speaks well of Ruger. If you do not personally know of whom speak, I would not question their marksmanship.
    Respectfully,
    Bobby
     
  20. Kaptin

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    I was just playing around...I'm sure you are a good shot

    Guys have had good luck with cutting the barrel down a few inches on the older Mini's to improve accuracy.