Mini 14 Reliability

Discussion in 'Mini-14 Forum' started by Liberty24, Jul 16, 2014.

  1. Liberty24

    Liberty24 New Member

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    I recently purchased a mini 30 and encountered multiple issues with feeding and firing. I know that the mini 30 is designed for brass ammo and true to form I encountered light strikes in about 1-2 out of 10 rounds. I expected this going in but I also encountered mis-feeds and jams despite utilizing Ruger factory mags. As a result I could get no comfort with the gun and ended up selling it and purchasing an AR. I have read that the mini 14 is more reliable. I still like the platform of the rifle and want to give the mini 14 a try.

    Can anyone speak to a comparison of the mini 14 to the mini 30?

    Particularly in ammo? steel? or feeding?
     
  2. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I had Mini 30 and now have a Mini 14. The 30 did not like steel cased ammo except for Silver Bear. Wolf was not too bad but Tul was inconstant at best. I could run my thumb over the primer and tell which ones were going to be duds. Primer depth varied considerably. I wont buy Tul in any caliber. The Mini 14 has been very good and has yet to jam but I have not run any steel in it yet. Even in the newer heavier barrel 30's accuracy is not great after a few rounds while the 14 has been under 2 moa with decent ammo. Milsurp is not known for great accuracy but I have been surprised occasionally.
     

  3. rifleman1

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    I have both and the mini-14 is far more reliable but I do not have feeding issues with the 30 I do have light primer strikes on steel cased ammo and also 1 to 2 per 10.
     
  4. Liberty24

    Liberty24 New Member

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    The steel ammo is not as much of factor as most of .223 and all of my 5.56 is brass. I am mainly fearful of the misfeed. This last foray was a little costly.
     
  5. Shoobee

    Shoobee New Member

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    I have never had any issues with my Mini 14.

    Can't speak for the Mini 30 however. Mini 30 ammo is usually crap, so your issues may be ammo issues.

    An AR is guaranteed to jam on you eventually so make sure you carry a hammer and a flathead screwdriver with you all the time while with your AR.
     
  6. Liberty24

    Liberty24 New Member

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    Your report is appreciated. This is a sample gathering process. I tried hard to make the mini 30 work as I really loved the gun and larger caliber. I am also aware that the gun was designed for .223/5.56 as opposed to 7.6X39.
     
  7. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    whats the hammer and screwdriver for?? been shooting ar15 and m16 since about 1986 never had any of them malfunction.
     
  8. CrazedJava

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    The Mini-14 is known in Hollywood as the "jamless wonder". Keeping in mind that movie armorers use blanks and blanks foul weapons up big time. Weapon malfunctions are common and a real pain while shooting a movie.

    This is why mocked-up Mini-14's with futuristic shells are so common in sci-fi movies and TV shows. Check imfdb.org. There are a ton of them. However, this is all the .223 model.

    Like any autoloading weapon, your most likely point of failure is magazines. Which is why reliability often drops off when people try to use cheaper brands. Unfortunately, the most common for Mini's is Pro-mags, which don't have a good reputation for any model they supply.

    The Mini-30 likely suffers from bad ammunition as well. I've never had problems with Russian steel, but I'm not shooting 7.62mm WP either.

    As for the other comment about AR-15's. There is not a guaranteed jam. While I am no fan of the platform and I have seen many jams with them, proper maintenance will take care of that. You'd only need to take tools to the range if you weren't taking care of your firearm to begin with. I wouldn't expect an AR to have problems until you'd had a few hundred rounds through it and maybe dropped it in muddy water for good measure. They are not THAT finicky.
     
  9. hawkguy

    hawkguy Well-Known Member

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    UH-OH....here we go...:p

    my mini 14 has had ONE malfunction in apx 1500 rounds, and that was using an aftermarket mag (that i haven't used since). if no factory defects exist, the mini 14 is a damn reliable rifle imo. oh, and it is pretty accurate too! :rolleyes:

    however, my AR 15 has zero malfunctions in about 7-800 rounds as well. so my experience with AR's reliability is very good as well.

    both are great guns. i have always preferred the style and ergonomics of my mini 14 though. just preference.
     
  10. DrFootball

    DrFootball disappointed & disgusted, But DETERMINED... Lifetime Supporter

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  11. DrFootball

    DrFootball disappointed & disgusted, But DETERMINED... Lifetime Supporter

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    Love my Mini 14, sweetrr

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  12. hawkguy

    hawkguy Well-Known Member

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    true, but also add AMMO to the list. so many posts.....why does my mini have malfuntions? why does my mini have poor accuracy? oh BTW...all i shoot is TULA or some other russian crap....:p

    this is why i can't get behind the mini 30. i don't own one...but far too many owners compalin it can't cycle the cheap milsurp ammo. isn't that the whole point of the 7.62X39 round? :confused:

    in that caliber, i'd get an AK myself.

    i have had good reliability with my AR....just my experience.
     
  13. hawkguy

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    one of my other favorites from new mini owners: :p

    Q by newbie: "why does my NIB mini malfunction so much?"

    Response at FTF: "did you disassemble and clean prior to first shooting?"

    response by newbie: "WHA?" :D
     
  14. LikeABoss

    LikeABoss Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Have only shot brass out of my Mini-14, no FTF's.
     
  15. CardiacColt68

    CardiacColt68 New Member

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    I don't have a ton of rounds through it yet, but so far I have not had one hiccup from my Mini. But I have broken it down and cleaned it before its first use, and after each use. And it had a gunsmith visit to upgrade a few things. I expect it to be perfect at this point.


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  16. Quentin

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    Very little experience with a Mini-30 but I recently bought a 582 series Mini-14 Ranch Rifle that's been reliable (no malfunctions at all) after 400 rounds, mostly Tula/Herters steel. I expect you'll be pleased with a new Mini-14.

    The biggest problems with the Mini-14 are finding the version you want and the cost. Lately a decent AR can be found as cheap or cheaper than the Mini!
     
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  17. therewolf

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    I love the Garand-style bolt design, but have gotten away

    from them because of barrel cleaning issues.

    As far as mini-14 reliability issues, my Ruger mags run fine.

    I prefer the standard 5-round mags, because they are low

    profile, but all the brand mags shoot fine.

    Same as the 10/22...
     
  18. hawkguy

    hawkguy Well-Known Member

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    i got a flexible cleaning rod specifically for my mini. now i only use flexible cleaning rods, for the most part, on all my guns.
     
  19. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    OTOH, I've moved on to rifles which i can clean more

    easily from the breech. I spend hours less at the cleaning

    table. If you get copper fouling with a Garand or mini, it's still

    a knock-down-drag-out struggle, regardless of whether you use

    a flexible cleaner (and they are nice) or you clean from the muzzle.
     
  20. hawkguy

    hawkguy Well-Known Member

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    i hear you, but i learned a few tricks (the hard way). i think my mini is MUCH easier to clean than my AR personally, but this may just be lack of experience with my AR.

    this will cut your barrel clean time down by 50-75%. works GREAT on copper fouling. no ammonia. blast it in (wait a bit), patch it out.....repeat 1-2 times...CLEAN! so easy you'll kick yourself after using it. NOTE: CAN damage wood finishes.

    wipeout.

    http://www.chuckhawks.com/wipe-out.htm




     

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