Military With a Concealed Weapons Permit

Discussion in 'NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion' started by danf_fl, Jul 25, 2012.

  1. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I was asked about situation and did some research I thought may be interesting to others:

    Fact: Florida has a 3 day waiting period for handguns. Should the purchaser have a concealed weapons permit issued by Florida, the 3 day wait is waived.

    Fact: Military personnel assigned to Florida bases on a "permanent" status (not TDY or TAD) are considered Florida residents for firearms purchases even if they are legal resident's of another state.

    If I were to transfer a handgun for a military member who had a concealed permit from another state, the 3 day wait is not waived.
     

  2. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    I have an interesting situation as well. With the military folks being stationed in IL but residing in IA and residency in another state, it's fun trying to sort it all out when doing a 4473 or talking to folks. ATF rules say they are good to transfer the firearm even if they are stationed in a border state, as long as they currently live in the state that you are licensed in, you can sell all day.
     
  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Silverado- at one time, I had THREE legal residences for purposes of buying a firearm-

    My "home of record" was Virginia. I was assigned to Ft. Benning GA. I resided in an apartment in Phenix City AL. While that can be confusing. dealers in that area are accustomed to it.
     
  4. sniper762

    sniper762 New Member

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    fyi.......an active duty person (by ucmj) is not allowed to carry a weapon (even if they posess a state cch permit). only can carry a usgi issued weapon if so deemed by orders or special duty allowed (in writing by their commander).

    active duty personnel are exempt from state weapons laws. they come under the ucmj. (uniform code of military justice)
     
  5. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Sniper- I have to disagree with you. SM may not carry a personal firearm for duty purposes- with the exception of the times when I was competing in a match, and was on orders that permitted the transport and use of personal firearms.

    SM are not exempt from state laws except in the performance of military duty. Off duty and off post, they fall under the laws of the state. On post or on duty they are subject to the UCMJ.
     
  6. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    Sniper I spent 13 years in the Corps 9 of them I carried concealed and still made it to E7. You are not allowed to carry on base but with a state permit and following state laws off base is no different than any other civilian. Ths only difference is who carries out the punishment if something goes wrong.
     
  7. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    Bingo...

    While active at Ft Lewis WA My residence was My Tacoma Address. Even though I maintained my Oregon residence WA issued me a Resident CCW and I could buy handguns in either state.

    Oregon has no sales tax so do the math. :)

    Tack
     
  8. Wiseman3

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    as a service member you can have a ccw but cannot carry on base or on duty. if you get in to trouble off base with it you are subject to both civil and UCMJ punishments on base strictly UCMJ
     
  9. sniper762

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    correct wiseman. active duty personnel are on duty 24/7 on or off base.
    my job(supply nco) required me to travel off post (transferring equipment and picking up supplies). i also was required to be IN UNIFORM. ucmj strickly prohibits carrying personal weapons (on or off post) (state ccw permit or not) while in uniform.

    btw, i had a state ccw permit and carried regardless
     
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  10. sniper762

    sniper762 New Member

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    c3shooter, sm IN UNIFORM is ON duty on or off base
     
  11. silverado113

    silverado113 New Member

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    Unless you're a Marine then it's 24/7 regardless to include leave (at least that's what we were told :) I carried in uniform as a recruiter regardless because my boss put the one white guy (me) with a office full of black recruiters in an all black part of town. After a few months they moved me, but I did have a confrontation with 5 individuals while in uniform, in my gov, and looking for an applicant. Needless to say a quick click on the safety provided a reasonable enough excuse to the 5 guys on why this "white boy" was in their neighborhood.
     
  12. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    I've also found myself the cream filling in a near OREO beatdown and discovered the same thing.

    Simply brushing back and grabing the grip on my 1911 was enough for these 3 punks to shout... "**** YO, hommie don't play dat"... and go about there business. :rolleyes:

    Good thing too, at the time I was on convelecent leave, wearing a brace, 3 weeks out of having my lower back fused in three locations with 11 pieces of Govt hardware for good measure.

    Recoil alone probably would have put me on my knees in pain.

    Tack
     
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