Military - Old vs New

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by danf_fl, Feb 22, 2016.

  1. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    A good friend sent me this.
    How true it rings.

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    MILITARY OLD AND NEW
    (the old one won wars.)

    1945 - NCO's had a typewriter on their desks for doing daily reports.
    2016 - everyone has an internet access computer, and they wonder why
    no work is getting done.

    1945 - we painted pictures of girls on airplanes to remind us of home.
    2016 - they put the real thing in the cockpit. & no paintings on airplane.

    1945 - your girlfriend was at home praying you would return alive.
    2016 - she is in the same trench praying your condom worked.

    1945 - if you got drunk off duty your buddies would take you back to
    the barracks to sleep it off.
    2016 - if you get drunk they slap you in rehab and ruin your career.

    1945 - you were taught to aim at your enemy and shoot him.
    2016- you spray 500 bullets into the brush, don't hit anything, and
    retreat because you're out of ammo.

    1945 - canteens were made of steel, and you could heat coffee or hot
    chocolate in them.
    2016 - canteens are made of plastic, you can't heat anything in them,
    and they always taste like plastic.

    1945 - officers were professional soldiers first and they commanded respect.
    2016- officers are politicians first and beg not to be given a wedgie.

    1945 - they collected enemy intelligence and analyzed it.
    2016 - they collect your pee and analyze it.

    1945 - if you didn't act right, the Sergeant Major put you in the brig
    until you straightened up.
    2016 - if you don't act right, they start a paper trail that follows
    you forever.

    1945 - medals were awarded to heroes who saved lives at the risk of their own.
    2016 - medals are awarded to people who work at headquarters.

    1945 - you slept in barracks like a soldier.
    2016 - you sleep in a dormitory like a college kid.

    1945 - you ate in a mess hall, which was free, and you could have all
    the food you wanted.
    2016 - you eat in a dining facility, every slice of bread or pad of
    butter costs, and you better not take too much.

    1945 - we defeated powerful countries like Germany and Japan.
    2016 - we come up short against Iraq and Afghanistan.

    1945 - if you wanted to relax, you went to the rec center, played
    pool, smoked and drank beer.
    2016 - you go to the community center, and you can play pool.

    1945 - if you wanted beer and conversation you went to the NCO or
    Officers' Club.
    2016 - the beer will cost you $2.75, membership is forced, and someone
    is watching how much you drink.

    1945 - the Exchange had bargains for soldiers who didn't make much money.
    2016 - you can get better and cheaper merchandise at Walmart.

    1945 - we could recognize the enemy by their Nazi helmets.
    2016 - we are wearing the Nazi helmets.

    1945 - we called the enemy names like "Krauts" and "Japs" because we
    didn't like them.
    2016 - we call the enemy the "opposing force" or "aggressor" because
    we don't want to offend them.

    1945 - victory was declared when the enemy was defeated and all his
    things were broken.
    2016 - we haven't a clue as to what victory is or what it takes to achieve it.

    1945 - a commander would put his butt on the line to protect his people.
    2016 - a commander will put his people on the line to protect his butt.

    1945 - wars were planned and run by generals who knew how to fight and win.
    2016- wars are planned by politicians who haven't a clue about fighting or winning.

    1945 - we were fighting for freedom, and the country was committed to winning.
    2016 - we don't know what we're fighting for, and the government is committed to social programs and political correctness."
     
  2. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    I still have some of those old canteens, with the metal quart cups

    which have a fold-up handle. I've yet to find a replacement as good,

    military, or civilian, anywhere, for any price.


    It's a shame, today's politicians are *****fying everything.
     

  3. RJF22553

    RJF22553 Well-Known Member

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    1945 - you could use your brain-bucket to heat water for shaving or washing your socks
    2016 - you can use your brain-bucket for nothing else.

    1945 - you were in the war "for the duration" (bomber crews excepted)
    2016 - 4, 6, 9, or 12 month deployments

    1945 - cigarettes in your C-rats
    2016 - not. Army is worried about your "health" in a combat zone...
     
  4. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    1945 Take care of your rifle and your rifle will take care of you.

    2016 Your rifle is locked in the armory, and the pentagon will decide if you need it.
     
  5. Donn

    Donn Active Member

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    Don't know about the rest of you, but to me, this is a slap in the face to any veteran who's served since WWII. We who were in had very little to do with the way things were run or how they unfolded. Was Audie Murphy and his men encumbered by rules of engagement or the need to be concerned with collateral damage? Every branch of the military is under the authority of elected officials, who are guided by the prevailing winds of public opinion, which follows politically correct guidelines more often than not these days. You've gotten the military you want, and now you're not happy with it. You made the mess, you clean it up.
     
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  6. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Donn, that's the whole point of this thread. I served 61-65. I was part of the "political correctness" being shoved down our throat. This thread is a humorous poke at politicians, and politically correct A-holes. not the troops.
     
  7. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    Yeah, remember "Woe to you, if you be found without your rifle!" ?

    Your rifle was your constant companion. If you went to eat, it went

    with you. If you went to take a dump,

    it went with you. It was with you, EVERYWHERE you went...

    Nowadays, your only companion is PC vagina-gloves...
     
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  8. Donn

    Donn Active Member

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    I expect you're right, Loc. Maybe I'm over-sensitive, (No, I know I am), but I've found it's a slippery slope from "humor" to "You drug crazed baby killers lost the war." I guess I should avoid threads like this all together.
     
  9. Sniper03

    Sniper03 Supporting Member Supporter

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    Danf,
    A lot of that in the above was still in effect at Ft. Leonard Wood in 1966! Brings back old memories.
    From 185# to 166# in 6 weeks. Some memories!

    This is my Rifle!
    This is my Gun!
    This is for Shooting!
    This is for Fun!

    And OH YES! the Dirty Lil cadence!

    And taking my beloved M-14 from me and issuing us Mattie Mattel! Some of us old Salts here remember it well.

    I also did not take it as a slam to the younger Vets which deserve great gratitude and get it from me! Most have not served one or two tours of combat but three, four or more! God Bless each one of you reading this Post and thank you for your service. I personally did interpret it as simply "directed at the corrupt politicians" which I have absolutely no respect for that are attempting to run and S****ing up our Military when the Military should be running our Military!
    And God Bless the Old Vets here as well and the Great American Citizens here who support our troops and our Country.


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  10. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    I take great pride in being a part of the legion

    of US armed forces veterans. It is society's

    greatest fraternity.
     
  11. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    In different ways I have been associated with the military since 1972.

    I've seen the changes.

    We were taught to read signs, obey superiors, do what was said, and paint.

    The kids today (they are to me, anyways), expect to be coddled.

    I nearly lost it when one NCO told me that the only reason he joined was for the education benefits and would not go to the rifle firing range.
     
  12. bobski

    bobski Well-Known Member Sponsor

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    when you ate, you stacked your rifles and someone guarded them.
    do they do that anymore?
     
  13. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Not where I work.
     
  14. big shrek

    big shrek Well-Known Member

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    We were still doing that in 1995...after that, I have no idea...
    but I do remember who was in charge then...
     
  15. dango

    dango Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I was issued a M-16 , need I say more ....! :confused:
     
  16. dango

    dango Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I am the proud owner of the sharp-shooters bar , I've always loved to shoot !
     
  17. kfox75

    kfox75 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Nope. Dad still prefers the M14 over the M-16. To the point that he always walks right past us to go upstairs to the "Armory" to pull my M1A out of the safe to fondle it. He did like his M-16 A2, but only for the better control with burst fire due to the smaller caliber. If it wasn't for the Unsafe Act, I'd give it to him.

    Downside is, at that point, we'd go back to rarely ever seeing him.

    He joined the Corps in June of 1969, and served until January 1991. Was issued that M14 at Paris Island, and he can still rattle of the S\N to this day.

    Thank you for your service guys.
     
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  18. dango

    dango Well-Known Member Lifetime Supporter

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    The thing i didn't like about the M- 16 was that you better keep it really clean , always !
     
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  19. kfox75

    kfox75 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Pretty much the standard issue with that platform. Add to this the early no cleaning kit included issue, along with the Ball powder, case swelling, and other issues from that, a lot of lives were lost as a result. Sadly, those issues have stuck with it in modern mythology, making some call the current AR-15\M4 platforms, finicky POS rifles. Far from it with the newer technology that's out there.

    And yes, that was also dad's gripe about the platform as well, and why he prefers the Garrand style actions even today.
     
  20. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Even back in the era of the 1903 Springfield, the D.I. tried to hammer it into the heads of recruits;

    :TAKE CARE OF YOUR WEAPON, AND YOUR WEAPON WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU.
    "