Midwest Industries and the FN Scar17S

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by JonM, Nov 13, 2012.

  1. JonM

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    my wife took my savage model10 fcpsr and niteforce scope then said get what you want to replace it, this one is mine. she is currently looking for a company to digicam the stiock purple *sigh*

    anyway i was looking for a colt le901 and missed it by a few minutes on clicking submit order with westfork armory, thanks for being awesome with the customer service followup, michael!! westfork 3 thumbs up for the effort!! then i started looking at a semi auto belt fed rpd and this afternoon went shopping ended up at midwest industries and they had a scar17s sitting above a scar16s on the wall.

    while i cant see any real reason for a 556/223 version of the scar when a regular ar15 does the same job. the 308 version is a different story and is in the relative ballpark of other high end 308 semi autos. after a bit of handling and talking with troy the owner of midwest industries i ended up hemming and hawing and trying to decide.

    the talk turned to suppressors and between the ultra light weight and the super nifty suppressor friendly switch on the gas block i was sold. so im the new owner of a scar17s.

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    troy at some point trots out a brand new MI rail extension for the scar17s and asks if i want one. they had just put it on a scar17s to send off for advertising pics. this rail isnt announced as of yet. im the first non-mi person to touch one or lay eyes on it. this replaces the bottom rail section block and extends the rail section out past the gas block allows full acces to the block for cleaning and operation of the gas selector. like all other MI products its solid as a freein rock and continues the T marks all the way out past the block and the rail sections line up with the scar top rail.

    so i said hell yeah. i get the very first one off the production line in december. unfortunately i dont have pics but i will first week of december!!

    here is the gas selector

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    bolt carrier and spring which is a captive spring

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    here is a view of the trigger pack internals

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    this rifle unlike the scar16 is well balanced and the controls seem right to my hands. one change will be adding a surefire muzzle device so i can run it suppressed.

    i like it better than the scar16s. it seems kinda on the same slight orders of improvements as the springfield xd to the xdm.
     
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  3. texaswoodworker

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    Nice rifle Jon. Congrats.
     
  4. JonM

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    thanks!!

    now the one thing i was a little hesitant about was the magazine availability which is damn near none atm. as i was thinking about it im replacing a rifle that i only have...one... mag for anyway. so troy has em on massive order and i get 6 when they show up.
     
  5. AgentTikki

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    RANGE REPORT! Please :D


    I'm anxious to see what kind of groups you can wring out of it. I've shot the Scar 16 and impressed. I've heard the gas system really tames the 7.62 nato. More videos plzzzz!

    What kinda optic you gonna put on her?
     
  6. JonM

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    taking it out friday unless something stupid happens at work. you can BET there will be a video if the wife cooperates as a camera woman better heh. im going to mount up my nightforce benchrest scope for accuracy testing. ultimate optic... i dont know yet. im thinking either acog or nightforce. im leaning nightforce heavily. prolly another 3.5-15x nxs f1 since the wife has mine. but nothing is set in stone. the iron sights seem decent but i might swap in some better irons if these dont perform.

    the wife has been mking hints that my acog is prolly hers and i just dont know it yet *sigh*

    the trigger is pretty stiff but its a battle rifle not a sniper rifle.

    im going to be using 168grain smk this weekend
     
  7. AgentTikki

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    Psst I herd Geissele makes a nice trigger...... :rolleyes:
     
  8. X-mark

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    There is a company that is coming out with a replacement lower receiver for your Scar. I forgot the name of the company, but the receiver is supposed to allow you to run SR25 mags and PMAGs.
     
  9. JonM

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    Yeah 400$ worth!! I think im going to spend some quality time with the rifle before i do anything like that. Bayonet lug addition is on the list of do's if it the scar passes the fun test

    I saw that last nite in my surfing for mags. Having an aluminum lower definately has my interest. Thats the big headscratcher for me is why a plastic lower???? notionally i get its for weight and there is no stress factor on it at all. I would feel better with a metal trigger pack.
     
  10. AgentTikki

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    http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=3217


    now if only they'd release a monolithic upper or at least a modular upper, so we can start planning and building scars.

    Tha'd be soo sweet.:D
     
  11. JonM

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    If its not actual vaporware and shows up it would be a great backup. But the cost of just the lower sans lpk is more than buying 6 factory scar17 mags...

    The factory mags are hard to get atm because of demand. Its a moot point though because neither that trigger pack or factory mags are readily had heh.

    It is something im interested in just to get away from the plastic.

    Another interesting item is vltor makes a ar15 endplate that replaces the folding scar stock so you can use any ar15 carbine stock out there. The folding aspect is more gimmick to me than useful. Shooting it folded up defeats the purpose of a rifle. Ive never honestly said "damn i wish my m16 or ar15 stock would fold..."

    But im going to spend some quality time wringing it out first before i do any mods.

    I will admit i was wrong about removable barrel being useless. It makes it SUPER SUPER easy to clean the reciever and locking lugs!!
     
  12. AgentTikki

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    I think the folding stock is useful when storing it it or when riding in a vehicle with it. Hell even putting it a range bag would make it worthwhile, but I totally agree with you on shooting with it folded. Too Hollywood, not practical. I have yet to shoot a Scar 17, and have only heard how nice it absorbs the recoil, and heard reports that it is very accurate. I eagerly await your range report(s).



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  13. JonM

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    It breaks down easy into 3 main components for storage in a small space. Ill give it that. With the stock folded though its very unwieldy and totally clumsy. With it folded out it balances very well unlike its scar16 cousin.