Medusa Model 47

Discussion in 'Revolver Handguns' started by Trez, Jan 18, 2011.

  1. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    The Medusa is a very unusual revolver produced by Phillips & Rodgers that have the ability to chamber multiple calibers in the same revolver. The Medusa chambers, fires, and extracts 25 different cartridges in the .38/9mm/.357 ammunition range. (This does not include the .357 sig because the round is a .40 caliber cartridge that necks down to .357.)
    The reason why the revolver can use multiple calivers is because of its special cylinder. The Medusa six shot cylinder design originally was designed by Jonathan Phillips. He was also a computer specialist for NASA and a competition shooter. To withstand the varying pressures involved in the various rounds, the revolvers cylinder is made with mil spec 4330 modified vanadium steel (the same alloy used in the Gatling gun barrels of F-16 Falcon fighters) and is specially hardened. This cylinder is about twice as stong as any other revolver cylinder on the market. The Medusa uses special rims and springs to hold rimless (automatic pistol) cartridges
    The Medusa Model 47 is patterned after the Smith & Wesson K-Frame pistols. The Medusa's frame constructed from 8620 steel which has been spacially hardened. The match grade barrel is constructed from 4150 chromemoly steel with available barrel lengths of 2.5, 3, 4, 5, 6 inches. The barrel has 9 rifle grooves instead of the normal 6 to 8 for revolvers. The revolver comes standard with adjustable rear sights and changeable front sights.

    heres some pics of mine....
     

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  2. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    some pics of the cylinder and extractor....
     

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  3. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Nice write up. Great pictures.

    How well does it shoot. And I don't mean with different calibers in the cylinder, but with one caliber loaded.
     
  4. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Weren't they made in Conroe, TX? I believe they made a replacement cylinder for Smith K-frames also.
     
  5. HKSlinger

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    How long of a run did the Medusa have? Its not in production any more,right?
     
  6. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Introduced in 1996 they produced ~500 before they went out of business in 2001.

    Here's a neat graphic:

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    The only other revolver with a similar extractor is the German Korth.
     
  7. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    although you could, i dont mix calibers in the same cylinder. also if im shooting multiple calibers, i start with the longer ones. i mostly shoot .380 acp and .38 spl. ive shot .357 mag a few times. its very picky with 9mm, only a few rounds from a box will fit, so i havent shot any yet. ive found it to be quite accurate with all the calibers ive shot. the sights are nicely made and the front fire sight makes it easy to aim. maybe next time i go shooting ill do a little report on it. i love it, and find it a joy to shoot.

    oh yeah, mine has the 5" barrel
     
  8. Trez

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    Really??!! only 500??? :eek: im surprised i even came across one, let alone get it for such a bargain. this is turning out to be a interesting chance find....

    i was looking up the korth but couldnt find any pics of the extractor... it said it auto-ejected the cartriges??
     
  9. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    WOW..from what i read there was only 500 made and around half went overseas...
    some more info i found...
    and a list of the 25 cartriges.... (although i read its 104 if you count every cartrige made)
    .380 ACP,
    .380 Revolver,
    9x18mm Ultra,
    9x18mm Makarov,
    9mm Browning Patronen (long),
    9mm Export,
    9mm Glisenti,
    9mm Kurz,
    9mm Largo,
    9mm Long,
    9mm Luger,
    9mm Mauser,
    9mmx19 Parabellum,
    9mm Rimmed,
    9mm Steyr,
    9mm Win Mag,
    .38 ACP,
    .38 Auto,
    .38 Colt Super,
    .38 Long Colt,
    .38 Mid-Range,
    .38 Short Colt,
    .38 S & W,
    .38 Special,
    .357 Magnum
     
  10. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    problems with 9mm

    im finding that my Medusa is very picky using 9mm. they seem to fit really tight near the rim. only a few rounds from a box will fit. (i dont want to force them, in fear that a extractor finger may break.) im not into reloading yet, so this has all been factory made ammo. it seems that the 9mm rounds are all slightly different sizes. the ammo will cycle and fire with no problem in all the auto-loader pistols ive tried. Any suggestions or insight on this? any help would be appreciated, im dying to shoot some 9mm out of my revolver!!
     
  11. jwphillips2

    jwphillips2 New Member

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    Trez, if you give the 9s a little twist to get the shell case past the extractor it will load a lot more easily. Remember the 9mm in all its non-standard sizes, headspace from the front of the cartridge. The Medusa headspaces all ammo from the rim or extractor groove. Some shooters push the extractor slightly rearward when loading, but I find that with a little practice you can load all the ammo pretty quickly with the slight twist as you're inserting the round into the cylinder. Maybe I should do a little video on here.

    In a pinch you can shoot .351 SL, 30 carbine, 32, 32 Mag, and even 22 Jet. I wish Winchester had continued the 9mm WinMag. It was super hot and accurate. Don't be afraid to put any of the recommended rounds through it. We had these cylinders proof tested @ 86,000 psi and yield strength is about 220,000 psi. The Navy Seals shoot them under water. Do not try this with a Colt, Smith, Korth, Ruger, Glock, or any other current production firearm. IT WILL BLOW UP!
     
  12. Overkill0084

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    Clever design.
    What did those things go for when they were in production? I'm guessing they weren't cheap. In fact I bet they aren't exactly just giving them away now.
     
  13. mach1337

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    Trez you are a lucky one! Man I want a Medusa bad one of the 4 or 5 in version.
     
  14. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Jonathan! the twist trick worked, now i can get most of my 9mm to fit. as well as telling the "in a pinch" ammo it can shoot. I would like to know all i can about the Medusa, and was wondering if you would mind answering some questions?
    How did it get the designation "Medusa Model 47"?
    Is it possible to get a manual for my Medusa? (maybe a reprint or a scan?)
    If i gave you my SN# could you tell me when it was made?
    Are there any replacement parts available?
    Thanks in advance!

    @Overkill... Theres a guy on youtube who just bought one and said he paid just under 2k for the 6" version (damn.. i wanted to be the first on youtube showin off my Medusa!! :mad: )

    @Mach.... You dont have to tell me!! I practically stole it!! i traded a Rem 870 Wingmaster for it!! :D

    Oh yeah i was mistaken... mine has the 4" Barrel....
     
  15. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    Just Bumpin' this up....;)
     
  16. M14sRock

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    I'm jealous. I want a Medusa.

    And I believe that JWPhillips2 is holding out on us. He MIGHT have some additional info....
     
  17. mach1337

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    Why would you think that? I mean its not like he invented the thing or anything:rolleyes:.(sarcasm)
     
  18. jwphillips2

    jwphillips2 New Member

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    Wish it were true, guys. I got into this at a really bad time for the industry. Everyone thought it would be no big deal to wipe out the FFLs issued to "non-storefront" gun sellers and that would finally eliminate the objections of the anti-gunners. Well, as I said at the time, this was pure liberal crap and they were just waiting to get a foot in the door. So, what happened? No one did the math. Most of the manufacturers supported this! Tens of thousands(!) FFL holders were wiped out and so were their sales. 2 years after that the SHOT Show(formerly the world's largest trade show) looked like a ghost town. Gun companies sold off or were wiped out and we re-elected Billary. We are now mulling a very restrictive background check that would all but eliminate gun show sales! Oh, it will never pass.

    Ah, I feel much better. I guess I'm waiting to see what is in store for us. I'm not dead yet.
     
  19. M14sRock

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    Any chance you will be bringing them back?
     
  20. jwphillips2

    jwphillips2 New Member

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    I had quite a few projects other than the Medusa series in mind. I'm always interested in bringing them back.