master gunsmith? arbitrary?

Discussion in 'NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion' started by mattybock, Jun 7, 2012.

  1. mattybock

    mattybock New Member

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    A few times I've see the words 'master' and 'gunsmith' come together, but only when it comes to colleges wanting to sell classes for a good deal of money.
    I can understand a master gunsmith in the very old fashion guild terms, like how a painter may be called one after his guild elected him to the position of master.
    But in the modern day we don't have such things.

    But in your own definition - what is a master gunsmith? What can he do, or what does he do?

    To me, it is arbitrary, as a persons skill with any one particular task is bound to wain and wax as time passes by. If ever there was a master gunsmith, maybe John Browning was one. He didn't make pretty things, but he made a mark on the world as we know it today.

    what do you say?
     
  2. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    There ARE still masters in gun smithin. A master is someone who specializes in one type of gun or in several processes. There still is guilds for gunsmithing as well. Its all in your point of view but anyone who knows what's great work or not great work all says my mentors work qualifies him as a master. The US Gov apparently thinks he is since he's built 18 bench rifles for the Olympic teams
     

  3. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Its about the same as calling yourself master bath towel folder...

    Look at the person's actual current work and decide for yourself
     
  4. beastmode986

    beastmode986 New Member

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    I did not want to start a new thread for this question and considering this thread is about gun smiths i thought ill ask it here. When im older i want to start a gun company.What classes do you guys recommend in high school and what degree in college ??? thanks
     
  5. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    Wood working, welding, cnc machine, and graphic design classes would help you.
     
  6. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Mechanical engineering.
     
  7. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    Don't listen to this idjit....he not know what he be talkin bout mmmmmmmmhmmmmm;) just kidding cuz actually that would be a good class also.
     
  8. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    Ahh you sob. Lol ;)
     
  9. bearrwe

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    Don't forget math, accounting and business courses if you want to start a business. You my have an accountant but you should always be able to check your books. Math for future courses and general business to give you an idea of the things you will need to learn other than guns.
     
  10. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    Damn your onto my secret;) iv actually been looking for a chance to use sling blade talk on y'all for a while now
     
  11. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    Correct. I take that stuff for granted bc I was taught all that in high school as part of my required classes.
     
  12. beastmode986

    beastmode986 New Member

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    ok thanks lol i derailed the thread
     
  13. Marlinman

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    No actually it probably helped it because it shows/tells others how to become a possible master smith because them business qualities are essential to a master smith as well.
     
  14. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    pretty much spot on. to engage in your own business and suceed, you definately need to understand much more than just working on firearms. business management, accounting, advertising, bookkeeping, legal aspects of running a business and so on. you can be a master gunsmith and make the best firearm available, but if you have no business sense, you probably won't be in business for very long.

    IMO, a master gunsmith would be someone who has mastered their craft and held in high esteem by his peers as well as his customers. someone whose work is the benchmark and standard others seek to achieve.
     
  15. beastmode986

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    ahh i see now lol. My main goal is to make inexpensive firearms (some exceptions) that are quality firearms,reliable, and accurate. How would you guys describe a master gun smith?
     
  16. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    someone who has mastered the art of building firearms and is held in high regard from his peers as well as his customers. someone who excells at building firearms to the highest standards and whose standards and build quality set the benchmark others try to acheive in building firearms.

    inexpensive and quality do not always go hand in hand when it comes to firearms. there are some firearms manufacterers that can, because of automated machines and equipment, but it's not true in all cases.
     
  17. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    Just for S&G sake where do I fall in this Jonas? And this is the best explanation to me
     
  18. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    Jared, you're one of those shade tree backyard gunsmiths!:D LOL!

    not really, just messing you Jared! well IMO, given your age and level of experiance, i would have to say that if you continue the path you are on, then you will reach the level of master gunsmith. now this is my perception of a master gunsmith, that someone who has been doing it for many, many years and is usually a much, much older person. i consider you to be very knowledgeable and qualified to build firearms and would have complete confidence in having you build a firearm for me. i have much respect and admiration on your chosen craft and value the knowledge and information i get from you. Jared, in some ways the true gunsmiths are becoming a dying breed and not many to follow in the same footsteps as these craftsmen. in short, i think you have what it takes to become one in time.
     
  19. therewolf

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    Try to find any gunsmith these days...

    IMHO, a master gunsmith should have the skill and ability

    to repair your broken gun. Any gun.

    What would you think of a "master plumber"

    who couldn't fix a broken pipe?
     
  20. Marlinman

    Marlinman New Member

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    Thanks Axxe. I have the skill to fix ANY gun......but the confidence for MOST;) wolf is right bout the plumber comparison though.