MAS 1936 modified

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by willie47, Jan 18, 2010.

  1. willie47

    willie47 New Member

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    I just bought a gun (MAS 1936) at a local flea market, and the guy I bought it from said it was chambered for a 44 Special and that he shot it the day before.

    After doing a little research, I found something on Wikipedia that states: "after the war, civilian hunting rifles were made by MAS and by the gunsmith, Jean Fournier. These half-stocked rifles were chambered for the 7X54 mm MAS-Fournier (common), 7X57mm (very rare), 8X60mm S (less common), and 10.75X68mm (rare). Hunting rifles in the two latter calibers had integral muzzle brakes." The end of the barrel is threaded 5/8"-18, which I assumed was for a brake, silencer or grenade launcher.

    Well, the one I have is has a bore diameter of ~0.425" or 10.75mm. Is this a 44 Special? I'm now in doubt that it is, although 44's are 0.430+ in diameter. I haven't checked the chamber depth, although I have noticed that it isn't tapered, and the chamber diameter is a little more than 0.425" (I didn't bother to dig out my ID micrometer, and the accuracy I got with a pair of calipers is +/- several thousandths.)

    Anyone have experience with MAS 1936 chambered in 44 cal.?

    Thanks, Willie
     
  2. jpattersonnh

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    The cut stock rifles were Santa Fe "upgrades". You would need a chamber casting to be sure of what is is. I have an original 1945 L series 7.5x54. Great little rifles.
     

  3. willie47

    willie47 New Member

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    Good idea! I'll make a chamber casting of it and "see" what it is.
     
  4. jpattersonnh

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    Post a pic!
    Second from bottom in pic.
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  6. willie47

    willie47 New Member

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    Haven't taken a picture yet, but I will and post it soon.
    Thanks! By the way, mine has been modified/sporterized/etc. It has a threaded muzzle for a muzzle brake -- I assume, since silencers are illegal. Also, I checked the chamber, and it is chambered for a 44 Special.
     
  7. LotzORemmies

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    while on the topic of MAS's. I found a one of these today at my local shop: It's been reworked into a .308. The shop owner told me that the receiver is in no way shape or form, designed to take the pressure put out by a 308 shell and that it would have to be sent back east to have the receiver upgraded and sent back to be reliable. Price is 449. Worth it?
     

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  8. jpattersonnh

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    He is correct, it is 7.62x51 nato. .308 is to high in the pressure catagory. The 49/56 is an excellent rifle. Many of them were converted an are great shooters. What does he think anyone could do to "rework" the receiver to make it stronger?? They are very strong, reliable, and accurate rifles.
     
  9. WyrTwister

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    The one I had ( w/o scope ) had been converted to 7.62 NATO by Century . Accuracy was terriable ! :-( Sold it .

    God bless
    Wyr
     
  10. TheOldMan

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    Used to have one in the original French caliber. I've heard that there were usually problems with the .308 converted rifles. Still might be a good shooter but I'd pass and try to find one in 7.5 French.
     
  11. Destroyer219

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    My friend bought a similar one while back to save money on ammo...sold it couple months later...
     
  12. radtech

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    Mas 49/56

    Beware firing these with comercial primers as the floating firing pin can slam fire a round.I have a modified pin that I use when I shoot comercial ammo.The original French 7.5MAS ammo has very hard primers so there is no problem using the original ammo.

    Dallas
     
  13. AH-1

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    if the century "wizards" modified any rifle...drop it and run.
    I had a friend that bought one of those converted to 308 DON"T DO IT.

    pete
     
  14. willie47

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    Here are the pictures -- it took some effort to figure out how to upload them.
     

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  15. radtech

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    The French made 200 MAS49/56 rifles in 7.62 NATO cal with no problems.No problem with the pressures of 7.62 NATO.These are still in French Army service.
     
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  16. c3shooter

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    Rad- in keeping with long established tradition here, you should immediately buy the thread a birthday card and a cake.

    It's a bit over 2 years old.

    :p
     
  17. 303tom

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    Boy I would love to get a real good look at that !.................
     
  18. Milsurpshooter60

    Milsurpshooter60 New Member

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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ,not even close for a converted rifle ,i may pay 300 just me.looks good, but good luck with it on firing 308 commercial ammo through it.