Marlin 795 as a SHTF gun....???

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by anthonybarbuto, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. anthonybarbuto

    anthonybarbuto New Member

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    Hi all,....I have my Ruger Mini 14, with some modifications, a Mossberg 12 ga and an old Nat'l Ordnance Springfield 30.06 as my SHTF guns.
    Recently I have been looking at 22 rifles.....Being a LOW INCOME person, having worked for 45 + years and EARNED my Social Security ( I hate when they call it Entitlement,...its the money I paid in )...I know most people swear by the Ruger 10/22 but at $250 +...thats a lot of money for me. I have been looking at the Marlin 795. I am wondering if any one can give me some suggestions....1) best place to buy it for discount...2) what you really need for it in the way of accessories for a shtf gun...3) I want to get a parts kit like I have for my other guns....is it easy to work on?.....I was always liking the AR-7 survival rifle.( now made by Henry Rifles as Armalite is gone...I think).....I could KILL my self for not buying them in the 1970s when they came out, for just over $100...( or less). What keeps me from getting a used one is reports that it is tough to work on....change parts, etc...
    I plan on placing spare parts and ammo in the stock of the Marlin like I did for my other long guns. I carry 120 rounds of .223 in a butt carrier I made up for my Ruger. The secret is to have one spare clip and the rest of the ammo in stripper clips. I use butt carriers for the other guns, too plus have inletted the stock to carry cleaning euipment,.. etc....
    Parts suggestions and repair recommendations...as well as sources...greatly appreciated for my purchase of the Marlin 795....a Ruger would be nice,....just too much money...thanks....Please rsvp to barbuto@optonline.net
     
  2. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Buy used from an individual for the lowest price. Be flexible and you will find a great deal on a great rifle. Don't add on to a survival rifle. Keep it simple. The less you do, the less you do wrong. My favorite is the Springfield M6 Scout .410/.22 over/under break action single shot. It is not incredibly accurate but it is reliable.
     

  3. JTJ

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    For reliability under nasty conditions I would go with a bolt or break action. Minimal chamber fouling and less problems in general. They will also handle a variety of ammo much better than a semi. You can use anything from BB caps to super high velocity like Velocitors. Tube fed will handle them mixed.
     
  4. SSGN_Doc

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    If you think you need a semi auto that is easy to work on, the Ruger is probably the way to go. Even on a budget the secret would be to not be in a hurry to buy, and shop used. While you shop, save money. The longer you shop the bigger the budget, and the better chance of finding a deal that was in the original budget. I bought my "superstock" 10/22 at a pawn shop used for $155. In hardly used condition. I did work on nothing but the stock parts. I did add a aftermarket scope base, and a Bushnell scope eventually. Don't really nead anything more complex than that, other than a sling for SHTF.
     
  5. GTX63

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    The difference in price between a cheaper gun and the 10/22 can't be that much. A carbine or standard model runs between $190 and $220 new. Stashing a few bucks here and canceling a couple trips out to eat and voila, there you go.
     
  6. chloeshooter

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    No offense, I have a 10/22 as well (and love it), but I think the only use for that caliber in a 'SHTF' scenario would be if the 'S' stood for 'Squirrels'........
     

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  7. John_Deer

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    I would be more interested in a 22 wmr for SHTF. Inuit indians like a 22 wmr. They can carry 500 rounds in a cigar box. Inuit's down Alaskan game 75% of the time with the first shot. An Inuit's day to day life is real close to SHTF for us. They are only 500 miles from the closest store.
     
  8. dwmiller

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    +1 on the 22 mag! Much more power and range. The ruger American rimfire in 22 mag is ~$260 new bolt action with the great ruger rotary magazine. Add a 4x scope and your done. Many poachers put deer on the table with 22 mag. Would be my choice!
     
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  9. SSGN_Doc

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    Actually that would be a possible role for a .22 in a SHTF situation, putting small game on the table. Squirrels, rabbits etc. would be good food because they are small enough to prepare and completely consume, without having to worry about preserving or storing. Deer sized animals would go to waste unless they were used by a group, or meat was smoked or dried.
     
  10. John_Deer

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    I was reading up on Inuit hunting techniques. Many Inuit's hunt for pelts. They shoot a polar bear with a 22 mag so they don't damage the hide. The bear dies in 15 minutes. They can easily track the bear in the snow. You are talking about people who have been selling fur since they first made contact with Europeans. An Inuit killed a second generation grizzly polar bear cross recently. Apparently the hybrid bears are not sterile. The bear was confirmed as second generation by Alaskan state biologists.
     
  11. chloeshooter

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    as long as they are not shooting back lol
     
  12. FrontierTCB

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    To the OP's question, I picked up a 795 last year, on sale I think it was like $120.00. I really like it for the money, its lite, accurate, and I've never had a malfunction with it. One drawback is the small amount of aftermarket gimmicks available compared to the 10/22.

    It is based on the legendary Marlin mod.60 but with a detachable mag instead of tube.
     
  13. anthonybarbuto

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    marlin 795 as a shtf gun

    Thanks all for your input. I want a 22 semi auto for several reasons....availability of ammo, low cost, low noise ( compared to center fire), can use as defense weapon if necessary ( the Masad uses the "tap two method"...two shots to the heart...gets them every time). I can cache a lot of 22 ammo in my caches ( I live in an apartment which I know will be over run by the city dwellers....I plan on leaving and retreating north...I have some caches with silver, 22 lr ammo, food,etc.. along the way).. I have center fire guns ( 223, 30.06, 12 gauge)...want a reliable, economical 22 as well. The 795 is short, and I can crop the stock to keep it at 26 inches, add on my "butt cuff" to shoot it. The 22 Magnum and Inuit info is interesting...but I don't recall ever seeing 22 Magnum ammo in any of the guns stores around here. I can take squirrels and rabbits with a 22lr and deer if I must with head shots at 50 yards. I live up state NY and there are plenty of deer around. I understand the Marlin 795 is accurate out of the box. The Ruger 10/22 has a light barrel which I think contributes to poorer accuracy, until accessories are added. I added a barrel stabilizer( home made for about $25...$20 for the clamps, $5 for a bolt and other hardware) to my Ruger Mini 14,( same skinny barrel problem...the shot group expands vertically as the barrel heats up) and get 1" groups at 100 yds...( I also honed the action parts, got different gas valve bushings to go easy on the bolt, and use a sling and rubber bushings on the recoil rod). I don;t want to go thru all that, again, on a 22....I appreciate all of your comments, tho.....IF any one has experience gunsmithing the 795, I would like to know if I could do it, and where to get cheap parts........Thanks again..
     
  14. bamashooter68

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    Wrong. Nothing light about the 10/22 barrel. I have two that are bone stock that will shoot out the center of the target at 50yrds. I have a thin profile 580 series mini-14 with an accustrut and other mods and the 10/22 barrel is actually bigger in diameter than the mini. Nothing wrong with the Marlin but its no 10/22.
     
  15. SSGN_Doc

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    Just to give you an idea of teh accuracy potential of a Ruger 10/22 with a stock barrel and parts you may want to check out a section on Rimfire central called "SuperStock". My stock barrel will shoot sub- 1/4" groups at 25 yds with all stock parts. I just did a little trigger work, and added a pressure pad under the front of the barrel, in the factory stock.
     
  16. lukeisme

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    The model 60 in my opinion is the best 22 ever made. Now I have a couple 10/22s and they are a fine fine weapon. I just like the feel and fit of the 60 better. The 795 is just a 60 with a detachable mag. No there are not as many taticool toys for the 60 or the 795. Boyd's make a dam fine stock for both of them. They are accurate and reliable. The ftf and fte are caused by one simple thing an idiot that should never own a firearm because they are too lazy to clean it. The 10/22 will do the same thing if not cleaned. The 10/22 is a very popular rifle for a reason, and yes so is the 60. The one vast advantage the 60 or 795 has over the 10/22 is that some yokel will shoot them until they are so filthy they won't run say they are worn out and then sell them to me for next to nothing. Just my opinion anyway......
     
  17. DrFootball

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    Mossberg 702. Also not a lot of accessories, but you can get 25 rd. Mags., a good sling, and mount an optic if you desire. Inside of 25yds. I don't even need the rear sight,...just the front. Mounting a TruGlo 2X42 red dot multi rectile prismatic( $110),...but any decent Rimfire scope works fine... I used to live on L.I. And had a " opt online" Email, wife worked for the company for 13 yrs....welcome to the Forums!
     
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  18. hiwall

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    Action repairs on the Marlin autos are rather complicated(very small parts, under spring tension). If you would ever have to take it apart.
    I would say save an extra month or two and buy a 10/22 and do no mods.
     
  19. John_Deer

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    My model 60 keeps running with so much junk in it you can't recognize the parts. I just spray it down with CLP powder blast. Let it dry/drain until dry, then lubricate. CLP powder blast has no lubricants and it removes all old oil and grease.
     
  20. anthonybarbuto

    anthonybarbuto New Member

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    marlin 795 as a shtf gun

    I appreciate all the inputs.....I am really living close to the bone...we earn just enough to pay the bills on SS and working part time jobs at min wage. Thats why each buck is important to me. In order for me to buy guns , ammo or parts, I must sell off my collection of memorabilia I collected when I was in aerospace for 13 yrs.I sold off all our gold and silver years back, but am saving nickels as they have more silver in them than the face value...Again I appreciate all your comments and will consider them before I purchase my 22 rifle....Anthony Barbuto....barbuto@optonline.net