marksman rifle

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Leavingplatoscomphycave, Mar 16, 2010.

  1. ok so ive got $362.34 and i want my first rifle. I was thinking a .308 or 30-06 i would want a semi-automatic but a good repeater or bold action would be ok. i want a rifle that if i practiced enough could be reliable to hit 12''x12'' peice of steel at 200 yds with iron sights (am i being unrealistic?)
    also i want to learn how the insides of the mechanism work so maybe somthing semi simple to start out with ? i dont know im a bit new to rifle purcasing
     
  2. jeepcreep927

    jeepcreep927 New Member

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    You're probably not going to get into a semi auto or pump in your price range unless you stumble onto a used Remington 740/7400 or 760/7600, not to sound discouraging.

    As far as accuracy and simplicity go, a bolt rifle is about the only option.

    Decide if you want a new rifle or if a used one will do. Obviously a used rifle market will offer you more options in your price range. In a new rifle the Stevens 200 is a great rifle and within your range, but I don't believe it is made any longer with open sights.

    I think a 12x12 target at 200 yards is very do able with opens, and I would vote for the bolt rifle in that case.
     

  3. ok so ive looked into it and a bold action rifle seems best any idea on models that are not gunna poop out on me but still be in my price range?
     
  4. 270 win

    270 win New Member

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    Do you want iron sights?
     
  5. jeepcreep927

    jeepcreep927 New Member

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    Most any bolt gun is hard to kill, unless you abuse it purposely. In the .308/ 30-06 class I doubt you'd find one with barrel and or throat issues. Pretty hard to do that in the lower .30 calibers unless you try.

    If you keep your eyes open you might find a used Remington ADL on Gunbroker or Gunsamerica in your range. I am still racking my brain for bolt rifles in that range with open sights... Older Savage 10/110's and the ADL are about all I can come up with this second. If you have any pawn shops around you might hit them up too, especially considering the economy.

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/99556172...rd-Bolt-Action/Sporting/Savage_110C_30_06.htm

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/98827583...orting/Savage_110E_30_06_Rifle_with_Sling.htm

    These aren't winning any beauty contests.

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/98827583...orting/Savage_110E_30_06_Rifle_with_Sling.htm

    Above is the lowest priced ADL on GunsaAmerica

    You'r options open up a bit if you really don't need the opens, or you could grab a brandy new Stevens 200 and have opens installed if you want them specifically, for just a shade more cash than you have on hand. Just a thought.

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/99228866...REE_SHIPPING_END_OF_YEAR_LAYAWAY_AVAILABL.htm

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/986775044/Guns/Rifles/Stevens-Rifles/Stevens_200_30_06.htm

    Good luck.
     
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  6. tuck2

    tuck2 New Member

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    Do not get one untill you can save up some more $$$$$s. A firearm is a life long tool .
     
  7. orangello

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    Don't forget to buy some ammo for it; that can be very frustrating. I bought a new pistol last year & had heck finding .45ACP in any quantity.

    I don't know if you would get the accuracy you are looking for, but have you considered a military surplus rifle? Some of them look a little old-fashioned, but it could save you some bucks.

    Maybe some of the more rifle-savvy members can advise if a milsurp rifle could get you the accuracy you want. The ones i see advertised all seem to have iron sights, which might be more of an optional item on a more modern bolt gun.

    look at these for example: Czechoslavakian vz. 24 8mm Mauser Rifles 8mm mauser for a little more than $200. The old Mosin Nagants are even less expensive, but i am under the impression that accuracy can vary greatly from rifle to rifle & from one batch of surplus ammo to another.
     
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  8. jbshoots

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    no, not at all. that is far more realistic than people who come here and say "i am looking for my first rifle and i want to shoot 1000 yards".

    as for the gun, if you want iron sights you may need to go with a milsurp rifle as was previously stated. modern hunting style rifles don't come with irons (for the most part, there are some that do).

    if you don't mind a scope you can certainly get one of those savage/stevens combos that come with a cheaper scope at sporting goods stores for around your price range. that will get you going and you can save up for a better scope once you get the feel of it...

    i dunno, just my .02 cents.
     
  9. iron sights yes but i want it to have the ability to put a scope on it if i ever run into the cash
     
  10. and im thinking .308 because my dad just got like 3000 rounds of .308
     
  11. wow ok ppl doing some reserch and i realized i can get one of those saigas for like 300 bucks, good deal? or are they chinsy?
     
  12. orangello

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    $300 sounds like a really good price on a Saiga in .308 ( Saiga 308 Version 21 w 21.8 barrel & Wood Furniture [IZ-220] - $585.00 : Mississippi Auto Arms, Inc ::, Your Source for Saiga, AK47, AR15, Tromix, Glock, and SKS firearms and accessories ). I have been lusting after one for a while, but i have some other items i need to get more. That said, i don't know if you will get great accuracy with the Saiga, especially not when compared to a good bolt gun. The saiga is basically a tame-looking & factory new AK. Most people whose advice i would consider profess that the AK-style rifles put reliability above accuracy, by design. If you do get one, post up some pics for me to envy. :)