Marine left behind

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  1. gwk4667

    gwk4667 New Member

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    Tim Brown

    Obama Silent As Marine Is Chained To Bed In Mexican Jail On Trumped Up Charges




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    Former United States Marine (once a Marine, always a Marine) and Iraq War Veteran Jon Hammar endured much in his tour in the streets of Fallujah, but now he spends most of his time chained to a bed in a Mexican jail on trumped up gun charges that could result in twelve years in jail. Not surprisingly his former commander-in-chief Barack Obama has been absolutely silent on the matter, even though he was arrested on August 13. Didn’t anyone tell you this?

    Hammar took to Mexico with a friend to surf, as it was the only thing that seemed to ease his mind following his service in Iraq. He is now within walking distance of the U.S. border, but sadly does not possess the freedom to do so.

    And why is a former Marine chained to a bed in a Mexican Jail? McClatchy DC reports:


    The reason might seem ludicrous. Hammar took a six-decade-old shotgun into Mexico. The .410 bore Sears & Roebuck shotgun once belonged to his great-grandfather. The firearm had been handed down through the generations, and it had become almost a part of Hammar, suitable for shooting birds and rabbits.



    But Mexican prosecutors who looked at the disassembled relic in the 1972 Winnebago motor home dismissed the U.S. registration papers Hammar had filled out. They charged him with a serious crime: possession of a weapon restricted for use to Mexico’s armed forces.

    Hammar isn’t the only American accused of questionable gun-related charges at Mexico’s border. Last April, a truck driver who was carrying ammunition through Texas got lost near the border, dipped into Mexico to make a U-turn and was forced to spend more than six months in jail.

    According to his grandmother the shotgun was more like a “glorified BB gun.”

    Both Hammar and his friend Ian McDonough were arrested, not because of the gun, which had cleared customs, but because of the length of the barrel. The Mexican prosecutors “dismissed the U.S. registration papers Hammar had filled out,” charging Hammar with the serious crime of “possession of a weapon restricted for use to Mexico’s armed forces”:


    Curiously, it wasn’t the type of shotgun that broke Mexican law. It was the length of the barrel, which the formal citation said was shorter than 25 inches, although a discrepancy has emerged over how the barrel was measured.

    Hammar’s friend, Mcdonough, was released and allowed to walk back into Texas.

    According to Marine Sgt. James Garcia, who served with Hammar in several combat situations, he said Hammar was “one of the best we had.” According to the reports Hammer, who is now only 27 years old, “joined the Marines and deployed to Afghanistan and Iraq before receiving an honorable discharge in 2007, serving another four years in inactive reserve.”

    During his stay he has received death threats and as he was sent to a state prison in Matamoros, his parents in Florida received extortion phone calls demanding $1,800. They did not pay, but instead contacted U.S. diplomats who were able to get Hammar moved from a wing of the prison controlled by a Mexican drug cartel into solitary confinement.

    Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL), chairwoman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee said, “His family has described a very disturbing situation that includes their son being chained to a bed in a very small cell and receiving calls from fellow inmates threatening his life if they did not send them money. The family also says that the jail where their son is being held is controlled by the dreaded and brutal Zetas drug cartel. The family wants their son back home, and I will do my best to help them.”

    I’m pretty sure the Mexico is pretty ticked off still over our government’s blatant supplying of arms to Mexican drug cartels with the Fast and Furious scandal has hurt our relationship with them. No doubt there should be no need to take it out on a U.S. citizen, but this is what happens when you have a man like Barack Obama in the White House.

    While Garcia says, “He doesn’t deserve this. We never leave a brother behind. We never leave a Marine behind. We have to do something,” and the Hammar’s own representative says she will do all she can to help, Barack Obama has said absolutely nothing on the matter or lifted a finger to help this marine who served his country.


    Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/o...can-jail-on-trumped-up-charges/#ixzz2EoVcnjWA
     
  2. orangello

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    Maybe instead of afcrapistan, US military efforts should be concentrated on threats closer to home. I hope they get him out of this.

    This should be a lesson to all of us; NO TOURISM dollars to mexico.
     

  3. Marlinman

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    Id say I know enough former Marines and active duty Marines that we could get him out of there. Pound for pound 1 US Marine is worth bout 10 Mexican soldiers/federales.
     
  4. heymatthew

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    Here's my thought on the matter:

    Round up about 10,000 US Marines, a few fleets of AAV's, Hummers and MRAP's and drive across the border into that piece of crap country and take our Marine back. I'm sick of this pandering and diplomatic BS. It's time America quits with the bureaucratic, political correctness and starts standing up for our men and women. When a Mexican crosses the border into our country they're treated for wounds, given fresh water and food and sent back to Mexico (either that or they're given a job and a green card). But one of our men gets busted on a BS gun charge and we leave him chained to a bed?

    Go get our boy back. Screw the Mexican government and their piece of sh*t cartels.

    I'm sick of this kind of crap.
     
  5. 7point62

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    Raise you 20.
     
  6. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Why would anyone go to Mexico and spend their money in that open cesspool????:confused::confused:

    Learn a lesson, boyz N girlz. Don't swim in cesspools.:(:(
     
  7. Chainfire

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    You can't cross international borders, violate their laws, and expect to be forgiven because you used to be a Marine........

    Lesson here, don't take a firearm to Mexico.

    If being a veteran excuses you from crimes, foreign or domestic, then is it ok for me to rob a liquor store?
     
  8. Garadex

    Garadex New Member

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    I say don't go to other countries 'cause we have all we need in America.
     
  9. rjd3282

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    Once again you have proved to be a complete idiot.
     
  10. Marlinman

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    Chain he didn't break ANY law. The "law" he broke was made up on the spot. It happens all the time in ol mehico
     
  11. ResidentialPyro

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    Not necessarily because he just a veteran (which we should look out for the same way they did for all of us) but the fact that U.S. border officials told him if he filled out their paper he would be fine and since they were wrong they need to fix it.
     
  12. towboater

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    You can't cross international borders, violate their laws, and expect to be forgiven because you used to be a Marine.

    But they (illegals) can sure come here and be entitled to gov. benifits and protection.
     
  13. Mosin

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    He didn't break the law. He got caught trying to obey the law. He checked his shotgun at us customs, got cleared to go to Mexico, then got 'busted' trying to clear his weapon at Mexico customs.

    I wish I were dictator for a year. I'd have this Mexico problem licked.
     
  14. alsaqr

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    No, Mexicans cops do not make up the laws on the spot. Its a well publicized fact that its illegal to take guns into Mexico. Every year Americans are arrested for taking guns and ammunition into Mexico. Soon the former Marine will be traded for some Mexican who was sentenced in the US for a crime committed here. The Mexican sentenced in the US will serve his time in a Mexican jail and the Marine will serve his sentence in a US jail.

    US border folks dropped the ball when they told the guy the gun would be legal in Mexico. One cannot legally take a gun into Mexico without first receiving permission from the Mexican government. i know folks who hunt in Mexico; they get permission to take their guns there and have no problems.

    Its sad the young man is mistreated in a squalid Mexican prison.

    http://news.yahoo.com/parents-ex-u-marine-jailed-mexico-hes-losing-013139792.html
     
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  15. Flat Tire

    Flat Tire New Member

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    Just a question, but, did grandma call you dummy ??
     
  16. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I guess I'll draw a lot of fire for this, but I'll be damned if I can gin up any sympathy for anyone who chooses to spend their American dollars in that cesspool in the first place.

    It's not as if this is something new. It happens every day.
     
  17. purehavoc

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    They need to get our man out of that sh!t hole . I have always said I give em 1 week of vacation a yr to help border patrol out . Hell I will even give them a 300 yard head start ;) . You make it unscathed your in , Chances arent going to be that good for em
     
  18. Flat Tire

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    I always hated trips to mexico. The place is run by a bunch of idiots, and it shows everywhere you go. It is like they never have the attitude " I will make my life better today, and tomorrow I will do it again". They just throw their trash out the car window, end of story.
     
  19. Mosin

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    Not true. Guns ARE allowed to be taken into Mexico. And many Americans do so every year to hunt. This marines gun ended up being 2 inches shorter than what the Mexican law allows.
    The fact remains that he was busted while checking his gun in at customs. He got screwed for doing the RIGHT thing. Mexican customs should have taken his gun at the most.
     
  20. Mosin

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    Oh and btw, from someone who has been to Mexico numerous times. YES, Mexican cops make up the law on the spot all the time. If you drive the coast, you better have bribe items (not cash), American beer, cigarettes and porn works best.