Man stops armed robbery at work and gets fired

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by Daoust_Nat, May 27, 2011.

  1. Daoust_Nat

    Daoust_Nat Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I do not want to drag up the thread about carrying at work. I saw this today on aol. I work for a large German multinational and have no doubts that this would happen there.

    We recently had a seminar about an active shooter in the office. At no time was an armed employee reacting brought up.

    Pharmacist Foils Robbery at Walgreens, Gets Fired - Careers Articles
     
  2. Sniper03

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    Daoust

    Just to advise I sent and E-mail to Walgreen's Corporate Office in Illinois regarding my views of this situation. I understand corporate policy. But I also would rather be tried by 12 than buried by 6! And also addressed that if there was any business and a designated target area for robbery it would be in the drug dispensing area. I also pointed out that we live in a violent age that I believe companies have failed to realize. In the past a robber was more likely to just hold you up and leave. Today they are just as likely to shoot the victim for the Hell of it and anyone else in the area. And advised them to look at recent events in tha past few years. "Big Change!"
    I DO NOT expect mush response since their Corporate Office is in the Socialist Republic of Illinois! But did advise that I was of the opinion that if anyone in the store should have a pistol to protect the employees and customers the pharmacist would certainly have been one of my first choices. And also would be a good idea to implement a training program for any employee who would have the proper permit and be carrying. Oh well! We will see if they respond. I think the Pole stands for it self! 25,371 in favor to 2,356 against!

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  3. locnload

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    If the consequences of not acting (being dead) are worse than the consequences of acting (being fired), then who cares about company policy.:eek:
     
  4. diggsbakes

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    I thought we'd see something like this soon. . . and the result is exactly what I thought it would be. I guess I'll switch my RX to another pharmacy! :mad:
     
  5. Daoust_Nat

    Daoust_Nat Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I don't go to Walgreens for other reasons. My son was a long term employee who got fired over a difference of opinion with a VP. No real reason, but that is what it was.

    Anyway I don't believe Walgreens is much different then most of corporate America. If you are depending on stock pricing for worth, I am sure your company's insurance company is making those decisions for you on legally carrying employees, or what they do with an employee who does like this guy. The insurance companies are telling these company executives that if one of us was to open fire on a bad guy, and injure another employee or even worse, a customer, that the lawsuits would be against the company, not the shooter. The company is the deep pockets here.

    I am guessing that in most fortune 500 companys, even if your shot stopped injury or death to the CEO, you would be thanked and fired.

    I have no facts on that, just information from the guy who deals with the insurance companies for my employer. He is also a permitted handgun carrier, so he is pretty honest about the insurance gods.
     
  6. WannaGator

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    It just shows the stupidity/hypocracy of "The Age",to be fired for doing good.
     
  7. Ltriker

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    Wnder what the consenus would have been if the robber would have killed several empployees and customers first?
     
  8. twobadazbrothers

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    gun owners should boycott Walgreens , CVS is better anyways :p
     
  9. Sonnypie

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    Where I used to work (retired now), you weren't allowed to carry.
    But that didn't mean there weren't plenty of arms in the parking lot.... :D

    An armed society is a very polite society. Criminals will turn around and leave at the sight of armed personnel behind the counters.
    Either walking, or in a body bag. :)
     
  10. texaswoodworker

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    They had no right to fire him for defending himself and protecting the store. I hope that if he sues them, he'll never have money problems again.
     
  11. Polygon

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    I agree with what he did. Just recently someone at a 7/11 here locally was shot in the face and killed. This was after he gave the robber all the money. So, I wouldn't assume that they will just get the money and run. I would fully assume that they're going to kill me regardless.

    That being the case, I'm going to carry to work. I would rather lose my job than lose my life. You can get another job and it's not like Walgreens was a career for him.

    I think that it's bull**** that companies has these views. If I were an employer I would welcome any legally carrying employee to do so at work. Sadly, I wish I could join the boycott, but I have never shopped at Walgreens. But now, I know I never will.

    If they state that it is against company policy to carry on the job, then yes, it is within their right to terminate that employee and he has absolutely NO recourse.
     
  12. Sonnypie

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    Polygon,
    The logic (sick logic) is to leave no witness(s).
    So the criminals kill.
    They are facing hard time either way.

    The truly dumb part on the criminal is that there is video surveillance so many places these days (besides the stores), that is one of the first things investigators look for.

    Many/most places have rules about carrying. Just a sad state of the times we are living in.
    Criminals are unregulated, citizens wind up dieing due to restrictions.
     
  13. Polygon

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    Sure, sometimes.

    Sometimes they're just messed up in the head.
     
  14. orangello

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  15. Sonnypie

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    I would own Walgreen's if one of those people were my relations, and they allowed such to happen because of policy!
    After I hunted the punk down and cut his privates off...

    That is the trend. Leave no witnesses. Sick. Destroys the families left with the loss.
     
  16. Phelenwolf

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    It is funny how at the time he has "seconds to decied what he is going to do" and everyone picks everything apart after wards. Some will say he could have done this or done that, but they were not there. He did what he had to do to protect himself and others. I think that I would have done the same thing if I were in his shoes. I hope he sues the hell out of Walgreen's and wins.
     
  17. g17frantz

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    I am in a similar situation at my job. Job will be nameless in case any corporate eyes are peeking....I work in a semi-bad part of the city and we have a strict policy regarding employees bringing in firearms. Its in a strip mall and in the last 6 months there has been a lady dragged from her place of business after close at gunpoint to her car and robbed, (close being around 8pm) a high speed chase that ended up in the malls parking lot where the perpetrator ditched his car and ran inside the mall and@ got arrested. (He was armed) since then 10 minutes before we close at 9pm I go out to my car, grab my crossbreed and g17 and proceed back into the building. I will not for any circumstance adhere to the company policy to save my life or the lives of my other employees by not protecting myself. If a situation arises where I need to draw on someone, by damn I'll do it. If I get fired so what, I'd rather walk away alive. I don't agree with it but that's life. However, bet your a** I'd be getting paid if I did get fired. Kudos to the outstanding citizen for doing his part. I bet he saved lives by being proactive and reactive.