Making my own lower

Discussion in 'AR-15 Discussion' started by revrentzero, Jan 23, 2013.

  1. revrentzero

    revrentzero New Member

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    I recently read a post about people buying 80% lower receivers and machining the trigger pocket and pin holes.. I was wondering if I could take my New Frontier Lower, strip it, and then cast a mold out of it at the plastic shop at my work? Would that still be legal to do without needing a serial number if it was only for me?
     
  2. Jpyle

    Jpyle New Member

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    Far as I know yes. You can whittle it out of wood if you want. Legally you cannot sell it, transfer it without a serial number.
     

  3. FullautoUSA

    FullautoUSA Welcoming Committee/ Resident Pellet Gunner Lifetime Supporter

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    To sell them you would also need a manufacturers license, but the atf says that one can legally make a gun for personal use
     
  4. Ultimate_sig

    Ultimate_sig New Member

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    So if you make a firearm for personal use can you make any modifications to it as you please
     
  5. FullautoUSA

    FullautoUSA Welcoming Committee/ Resident Pellet Gunner Lifetime Supporter

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    You have to follow the NFA and all state and local laws.
     
  6. Ultimate_sig

    Ultimate_sig New Member

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    I seen somewhere that sum guys pitched in together and got a cnc machine and they said something about no rules if its personal use....im going to check into this
     
  7. FullautoUSA

    FullautoUSA Welcoming Committee/ Resident Pellet Gunner Lifetime Supporter

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    They are wrong, you cant make it full auto or an sbr unless you register it as an sbr
     
  8. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    you can make a firearm as long as it's legal to own. such as it still has to meet certain criteria. you can't make a SBR, SBS, or FA firearm from scratch. but if it meets certain guidelines you may make one from raw materials. has to meet the same guidelines as what you may legally purchase.

    take a piece of round bar stock and machine a reciever and built a bolt action hunting rifle or target rifle and that's legal.

    those 60 and 80% lowers and frames are legal to buy according to the ATF, they are not frames or recievers, but a chunk of metal. they can not be bought and machined into a firearm with the intentions of selling, as that comes under manufactoring and that requires a FFL to do. but yes, you can sell one. EG.: two years down the road, you tire of it and a buddy wants to purchase it so you can build something, then you can sell it, just like any other firearm you own. this is because it was not made for the intentions of making to sell for profit or as a business of.

    now here's a sticky part of it also with these 80% frames. you personally have to do the work for it to be legal. your machinist buddy can't do it for you to make it legally. he can instruct and mentor you, but you have to do all the work for it to be legal to make.

    problem is with many of these, many people think this would be an easy way to have firearms without a serial number. true to some extent, but without the proper machining equipment and the skills required, most of these are doomed for failure.
     
  9. FullautoUSA

    FullautoUSA Welcoming Committee/ Resident Pellet Gunner Lifetime Supporter

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    Can you make a gun and then register it as an sbr?
     
  10. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    reread my last post on this and figure it out. spelled out very clearly.
     
  11. Sgt_Skrb_25

    Sgt_Skrb_25 New Member

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    As far as the 80% lowers- You are allowed to produce for personal use,49 firearms annually, 3 of which can be pistols. You still have to abide by federal and state laws on configurations.If you were to try to sell it, you would have to voluntarily serialize it and register it. Without a serial number that weapon can only be used,owned, stored by you. Once the lower is serialized, then based on the state laws you can register it as an SBR. The Rifle Act of 1968 is not that clear in the guidelines but it does give us the right to make our own weapons. So the rest of the guidelines come from ATF, and state laws. As far as serializing, although 80% lowers don't need a serial, I would still put some marking in it. I have a friend who is a L.E.O , and some one in his department confiscated a non-serialized weapon. Although it was unlawful for them to take it, the gun owner has had a pain fighting to get it back. There is no proof of ownership , as far as they are concerned it could be an illegally transferred weapon. To be safe I marked my lower under the pistol grips and took pictures of the markings . Took pictures of me milling it , printed out the rifle act of 1968, and the receipt of the 80% lower purchase. I'm covered if I get jacked!